Archer auto-attack (Yes, please.)

[Kilta_Firelotus]

I played archer and solo'ed leve's a good bit. And I had really no issues living. And this was starting as an archer. If they keep close shot all you do is pretty much stand with in the basic range hit it with 2 arrows use close shot de target it to run back a bit and fire at it and use a ws skill.

In WoW I play hunter and even with AA i just spam my light shot and the shot that gives some focus back. (then again also no arrows so no need to worry about money)

[Richard]

What FFXI are you playing? RNG is still little more than a glass cannon that continues to get out shined both in damage and utility on a regular basis by just about every melee in XI, most notably WAR MNK & NIN who currently dominate Abyssea without contest (and for good reason).

When did I say that RNG > WAR, MNK, NIN, SAM ECT? I said it was used heavily. Calm down there champ before you crap your pants.

Either way, FFXI is a horriblep standard on how a ranged class should be.

As opposed to what? WoW? Let me do a 180 jump while kiting w/ AA and still be able to shoot at my target? Please just stop before you embarrass yourself more.

[Corrderio]

As opposed to what? WoW? Let me do a 180 jump while kiting w/ AA and still be able to shoot at my target? Please just stop before you embarrass yourself more.

Sure beats something as bland as lolXI ranger

[Physic]

Sure beats something as bland as lolXI ranger

the thing your not getting here, is archer doesnt play the way you think, and it doesnt play like ffxi Ranger. AA is less important than AA is for mages, for archer.
As soon as you hit 20 and do the quest and buy multishot the entire plastyle of archer shifts. Archer as it is, is a mellee nuker, and it is not from the use of weapon skills.
Archers whole dps playstyle is based around applying multiple buffs to multiple shots, multishot, quick knock barrage, trifurcate. they actually pick their shots, the higher they get, the likely hood that they will shoot a stream of light strikes diminishes greatly.
Archer is all about ability use over AA, their WS are nothing alone, the Ws are basically utility skills. Its not about replacing multishot with a WS, because archers dont use TP for thier major damage, they use abilities and basic attacks for that.
Archer picks thier shots. firing arrows pointlessly isnt the style of archer in this game, and it is actually a fairly good mechanic, it simulates an archer requiring preparation to make best use of its damage, while still giving the freedom to attack whenever they choose.

Some classes just peak late, you cant really understand them until you get more skills, seriously before you think how
archer should be, i suggest you get it to 30+, and experiment with multishot, trifurcate barrage and quick knock with various buffs. high level archers by and large rarely use light shot outside of multiple arrow skills, and without some kind of buff. for single shots they may use one light to get to some tp threshold, or heavy shot for utility and damage. Turning archer into a AA and TP attack class is a step back.

[Corrderio]

the thing your not getting here, is archer doesnt play the way you think, and it doesnt play like ffxi Ranger. AA is less important than AA is for mages, for archer.
As soon as you hit 20 and do the quest and buy multishot the entire plastyle of archer shifts. Archer as it is, is a mellee nuker, and it is not from the use of weapon skills.
Archers whole dps playstyle is based around applying multiple buffs to multiple shots, multishot, quick knock barrage, trifurcate. they actually pick their shots, the higher they get, the likely hood that they will shoot a stream of light strikes diminishes greatly.
Archer is all about ability use over AA, their WS are nothing alone, the Ws are basically utility skills. Its not about replacing multishot with a WS, because archers dont use TP for thier major damage, they use abilities and basic attacks for that.
Archer picks thier shots. firing arrows pointlessly isnt the style of archer in this game, and it is actually a fairly good mechanic, it simulates an archer requiring preparation to make best use of its damage, while still giving the freedom to attack whenever they choose.

Some classes just peak late, you cant really understand them until you get more skills, seriously before you think how
archer should be, i suggest you get it to 30+, and experiment with multishot, trifurcate barrage and quick knock with various buffs. high level archers by and large rarely use light shot outside of multiple arrow skills, and without some kind of buff. for single shots they may use one light to get to some tp threshold, or heavy shot for utility and damage. Turning archer into a AA and TP attack class is a step back.

I intend to once I get MRD to 36, but the point I'm trying to make is it's still a PITA to have to maunually shoot an arrow when I'm positive an archer's mechanics could be tuned to make it work with a bow having AA. Which I think would have been the best move.

[Firon]

the thing your not getting here, is archer doesnt play the way you think, and it doesnt play like ffxi Ranger. AA is less important than AA is for mages, for archer.
As soon as you hit 20 and do the quest and buy multishot the entire plastyle of archer shifts. Archer as it is, is a mellee nuker, and it is not from the use of weapon skills.
Archers whole dps playstyle is based around applying multiple buffs to multiple shots, multishot, quick knock barrage, trifurcate. they actually pick their shots, the higher they get, the likely hood that they will shoot a stream of light strikes diminishes greatly.
Archer is all about ability use over AA, their WS are nothing alone, the Ws are basically utility skills. Its not about replacing multishot with a WS, because archers dont use TP for thier major damage, they use abilities and basic attacks for that.
Archer picks thier shots. firing arrows pointlessly isnt the style of archer in this game, and it is actually a fairly good mechanic, it simulates an archer requiring preparation to make best use of its damage, while still giving the freedom to attack whenever they choose.

Some classes just peak late, you cant really understand them until you get more skills, seriously before you think how
archer should be, i suggest you get it to 30+, and experiment with multishot, trifurcate barrage and quick knock with various buffs. high level archers by and large rarely use light shot outside of multiple arrow skills, and without some kind of buff. for single shots they may use one light to get to some tp threshold, or heavy shot for utility and damage. Turning archer into a AA and TP attack class is a step back.

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[Warlyx]

the best archer class ever made?

DAOC , just amazing :3

anyway , Archer autottack meh , if its implemente ok , else ok too :P

And while and archer can move and still "shoot" is like a lancer moving and "trying to pierce throw enemys" , or a mage casting a spell while moving....... ect ect

[Physic]

the best archer class ever made?

DAOC , just amazing :3

anyway , Archer autottack meh , if its implemente ok , else ok too :P

And while and archer can move and still "shoot" is like a lancer moving and "trying to pierce throw enemys" , or a mage casting a spell while moving....... ect ect

mages stop twice while casting, once to initiate, and second time when actually cast, lnc also stops when they do peirce, in fact they move 1 step forward. so uhhhhhh what?

[RexSkyborn]

Yes there have been sensible arguments made. Archers hate.
I dont get why people with a class at level 20 think they know how the class should be adjusted.

Would you have mages auto-nuke? No, that would be stupid and they'd all die.

/thread

[Corrderio]

And that means what exactly? Even with Abyssea game still looks dull outside of gear not being such a timesink to obtain.