Archer auto-attack (Yes, please.)

[feint2021]

In FFXIV buffs like Ferocity and Raging Strikes buff your next attack, not just your weapon skill. So while buffing raging strikes, ferocity, blindside, still precision or hawks eye you will essentially give your next AA that buff instead of the intended WS or multishot. Unwanted results and no way to control them.

Other classes that gain AA will be able to buff before a ws and so will archer. Multi shot could simply be readied while being disengaged. Also, It's not incredibly hard to avoid breaking CC.

[Physic]

Other classes that gain AA will be able to buff before a ws and so will archer. Multi shot could simply be readied while being disengaged. Also, It's not incredibly hard to avoid breaking CC.

trying real hard to add an AA, when its use is pretty limited.
disengage? you realize they said AA has no toggle? just by getting close to a target we will start AAing how can you do a buff while disenaged? buff random AA goes off.
They could nerf your basic attack damage to AA levels, and then your multishot also gets nerfed.

You still havent event touched on the ranged attacks pause you so that you cant easymode kite monsters forever. If they make it so you can shoot while moving, they need to lower your movement speed. If they lower your engaged movement speed they have to lower everyone elses. if you lower everyone elses, they can dodge half the aoes/cones, charging WS they could before.

All in all ranged AA in this game would require way too many changes, and be exploitable super kiting. It also doesnt work with how they said AA works for other classes.

You also gain no benefit from AA and lose most of your power.

And realistically the buff situation is a problem i worry about for melee as well. i wish could have no AA, because it looks like it does absolutely nothing for pug, who will use flurry or light strike more than heavy strike in either attacker or defender builds.

you rangers are the lucky ones honestly.

[Xenor]

In FFXIV buffs like Ferocity and Raging Strikes buff your next attack, not just your weapon skill. So while buffing raging strikes, ferocity, blindside, still precision or hawks eye you will essentially give your next AA that buff instead of the intended WS or multishot. Unwanted results and no way to control them.

Ferocity is a lancer buff in case you hadn't noticed. Should lancers not get auto attack either?

the thing your not getting here, is archer doesnt play the way you think, and it doesnt play like ffxi Ranger. AA is less important than AA is for mages, for archer.
As soon as you hit 20 and do the quest and buy multishot the entire plastyle of archer shifts. Archer as it is, is a mellee nuker, and it is not from the use of weapon skills.
Archers whole dps playstyle is based around applying multiple buffs to multiple shots, multishot, quick knock barrage, trifurcate. they actually pick their shots, the higher they get, the likely hood that they will shoot a stream of light strikes diminishes greatly.
Archer is all about ability use over AA, their WS are nothing alone, the Ws are basically utility skills. Its not about replacing multishot with a WS, because archers dont use TP for thier major damage, they use abilities and basic attacks for that.
Archer picks thier shots. firing arrows pointlessly isnt the style of archer in this game, and it is actually a fairly good mechanic, it simulates an archer requiring preparation to make best use of its damage, while still giving the freedom to attack whenever they choose.

Some classes just peak late, you cant really understand them until you get more skills, seriously before you think how
archer should be, i suggest you get it to 30+, and experiment with multishot, trifurcate barrage and quick knock with various buffs. high level archers by and large rarely use light shot outside of multiple arrow skills, and without some kind of buff. for single shots they may use one light to get to some tp threshold, or heavy shot for utility and damage. Turning archer into a AA and TP attack class is a step back.

You should try playing ARC before you try acting like you know how to play it. Archer does not, ever rely on Multi Shot for damage after the initial engaging of the mob. If you're using Multi Shot after you've engaged a mob then you're doing it wrong.

Each arrow knocked with Multi Shot uses more stamina than an arrow just fired off on its own. Sure buffing those shots will create a net benefit but if you're playing the class right you won't ever have buffs available for normal shots. Buffs will always be far better put to use in weapon skills.

If you're not getting 1000 TP for a weapon skill every 30 seconds to use your Raging Strike with then again, you're doing something wrong. Probably sat there idling to avoid using precious arrows while your party does the work.

There's simply no valid argument against it.

[Gail]

To all the people FOR AA ranged attacks how would you deal with battle mechanics such as sleep/bind and other crowd control? Would you be able to manually click off of the mob or de-target fast enough before you broke CC?...

You're the hunter that always broke my sheep aren't you?

[Kilta_Firelotus]

no one talks in this game and ppl barely talk in parties in ffxi already.

I like manual attacking things. an archer doesn't need an auto attack he should only fire off arrows everyso often not spaming it. So there is time for an archer to communicate. But again bigger issue is no one talks in or out of parties

[Renshi]

no one talks in this game and ppl barely talk in parties in ffxi already.

I like manual attacking things. an archer doesn't need an auto attack he should only fire off arrows everyso often not spaming it. So there is time for an archer to communicate. But again bigger issue is no one talks in or out of parties

Hahah! You don't know the sh*t we talk while we party, or simply talk outside, us people in Mysidia! =D

[Vanguard319]

Hahah! You don't know the sh*t we talk while we party, or simply talk outside, us people in Mysidia! =D

Amen Brah!!!

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Hahah! You don't know the sh*t we talk while we party, or simply talk outside, us people in Mysidia! =D

been there in all 3 cities for 2 weeks playing everyday for 2 + hours.. only thing i saw was 1 shout for raptor party. Other then that no one talked not even in the LS i was in. I like ffxiv and didn't want to quit it. But if no one talks it isn't an mmo to me. You seriously think I would go back to WoW if I felt like i didn't need to? Answer no. I loosely like that game due to the solo aspect as in i shate solo mmo. I'm more or less playing it cuz my best friend/ ex boyfriend is playing it. I do not quit mmo lightly.

[Renshi]

been there in all 3 cities for 2 weeks playing everyday for 2 + hours.. only thing i saw was 1 shout for raptor party. Other then that no one talked not even in the LS i was in. I like ffxiv and didn't want to quit it. But if no one talks it isn't an mmo to me. You seriously think I would go back to WoW if I felt like i didn't need to? Answer no. I loosely like that game due to the solo aspect as in i shate solo mmo. I'm more or less playing it cuz my best friend/ ex boyfriend is playing it. I do not quit mmo lightly.

Then you picked the wrong times to log in and your LS was full of suck =)
And even though there are moments of silence, there IS people who wants to chit-chat a little, so you can just shout something, like "Heya!" or "Sup fags!".
Just point that out there.