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    BamDeafPie's Avatar
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    Afraid of RMTs need to end.

    This game developers are very afraid of RMTs, that's why they taken out of easy method of earn Gil or reduce of earning.

    This is silly, SE. RMTs has been around for many years. Even Runescape still have them! Nothing can stop them. Nothing! Even if you mange to prevent RMTs from send tell spam, they still will always find way to spam.

    Question is, will you nerf or taken out anything in order to stop RMTs at all cost? Then it is pretty oblivious you care more about killing RMTs rather than improve things that need an improvement.
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    SE is actually combating RMT? We must not be playing the same game.
    I login for a few hours on Sat. and received a dozen spams.
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    Shirai N'yankoro
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebun View Post
    SE is actually combating RMT? We must not be playing the same game.
    I login for a few hours on Sat. and received a dozen spams.
    I read this from a lot of Excalis.

    On Sargatanas I can count the number of tells I get a week on one hand these days and I play almost every evening at EU prime time.
    Aside from that, most of them don't even manage to send more than two tells in succession from the same character anymore so I hardly bother with blacklisting them anymore.

    The only permanent entry on my blacklist is getting lonely.
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    Felis catus

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    Ineb Yakiria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai View Post
    I read this from a lot of Excalis.

    On Sargatanas I can count the number of tells I get a week on one hand these days and I play almost every evening at EU prime time.
    Aside from that, most of them don't even manage to send more than two tells in succession from the same character anymore so I hardly bother with blacklisting them anymore.

    The only permanent entry on my blacklist is getting lonely.
    It has to do with how many people are actually buying RMT Gil. Its still a/business, why would they waste money on buying a lot of accounts on servers where they would get less money. My server has em pretty bad too, which is kind of surprising since were suppose to be a medium to low pop server.

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    How do people buy gils without gettig caught?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BamDeafPie View Post
    How do people buy gils without gettig caught?
    While there is no completely undetectable way there are ways to stay "below the radar" so to speak.
    How exactly, I cannot tell.

    All the ways I can think of are all ways that raise alarm bells, on the other hand, why should RMT care what happens if a buyer gets caught. They have their real cash anyway.
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    Felis catus

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    Delsus Highwind
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by BamDeafPie View Post
    How do people buy gils without gettig caught?
    It's mostly because it's not practical for SE to scan every account for a sudden increase in gil in real time, such a method would cause a lot of strain on servers, and even if the did they would have to be able to prove that the gil came from rmt sources.

    RMT aren't stupid, they will have their spam bots on a separate account to the bank characters, the gil making bots separate to the bank characters etc when someone buys gil it would be traded from the bank characters, the spam bots get instantly banned (the obvious rmt) but the bots are actually harder to ban for rmt activites, all SE can see is that they are botting, the bot then sold some money and traded the proceeds. The bot then gets banned for cheating and using third party software. The money however is still around on a bank character, which then gets sold to a buyer.

    If you look at this another way, I farm loads of gil and decide to help a friend out, trade 1m gil to them, that could look like rmt on SE's servers, should I get banned for helping a friend out, or my friend getting banned? That's how people buy without getting caught, it's impossible to differentiate between a legit player helping another player and someone transferring gil that has been bought.

    This is also why SE are attacking the bots, they are the easy ones to ban.
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    I turned off tell so I don't get any tells at all.

    I have never see RMTs shout anymore so I assumed SE found a way to prevent RMTs from spamming shout.
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    Synaptic Striker
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    SE have said it many times, The RMTs are full investigated before an action is taken, they dont want to ban innocent players.

    RMT's breed faster than to investigate a player.
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    Goodbye, Final Fantasy...

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    Doki Waku
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    Faerie
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    Reporting spammers with name, world, and copy & pasted the exact message they sent me via tell (including time stamp) and I have only seen a single blacklist entry change to (deleted) out of like 30+ names.
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