Summoner Changes

[Madoka]

Why did you make another thread?

[Akiza]

Why did you make another thread?

This thread is about Summoner's leading up to gaining the ability to summon the Primals rather than a complete class overhaul.

[Madoka]

This thread is about Summoner's leading up to gaining the ability to summon the Primals rather than a complete class overhaul.

It's basically the same thing.

A single human doesn't have the Aether to support a primal for any period of time, no matter how short. I don't expect them to break lore for your fantasy

[Tharian]

It's basically the same thing.

A single human doesn't have the Aether to support a primal for any period of time, no matter how short. I don't expect them to break lore for your fantasy

That isn't the only reason.

In Final Fantasy XI, an Eidolon was basically a very powerful spirit being. Though technically a wild entity, that could cause great amounts of devastation if left to its own devices, with the exception of Bahamut, Odin, and Diabolos, they were largely benevolent creatures.

Primals in FFXIV are essentially vengeful gods of destruction. Nothing more and nothing less. The tempering process makes anyone who would summon them into their slaves. The only reason the player is immune to that is because of the Echo.

[Enkidoh]

That isn't the only reason.

In Final Fantasy XI, an Eidolon was basically a very powerful spirit being. Though technically a wild entity, that could cause great amounts of devastation if left to its own devices, with the exception of Bahamut, Odin, and Diabolos, they were largely benevolent creatures.

Primals in FFXIV are essentially vengeful gods of destruction. Nothing more and nothing less. The tempering process makes anyone who would summon them into their slaves. The only reason the player is immune to that is because of the Echo.

Summon monsters in FFXI were called Avatars, not 'eidolons' (which were the summons in FFIX and XIII). But you're right about everything else.

[Tharian]

Summon monsters in FFXI were called Avatars, not 'eidolons' (which were the summons in FFIX and XIII). But you're right about everything else.

the word Eidolon and Avatar are synonyms. Using them interchangeably like that makes next to no difference in the grand scheme of things. The term basically translates into English as "Physical Corporeal Manifestation of a God" thus by the literal definition, Jesus the Christ according to Christian Tradition could be interpreted as the Eidolon or Avatar of the Abrahamic God.

The word Primal however means something entirely different. Primal signifies a raw untamed force of destructive magic made manifest. In this case it is a destructive force created when an actual God is summoned to the mortal plane against its will. You can't tame something like that.

[Akiza]

It's basically the same thing.

A single human doesn't have the Aether to support a primal for any period of time, no matter how short. I don't expect them to break lore for your fantasy

I'm pretty sure a single person has enough aether to support a primal for at least 30s not as a permanent pet since no where on my post I said I want Primals as a permanent pet. Since the Primals are aetheric beings all it would take is giving more Aether to the Egi an it will become the corresponding Primal