Summoner Changes

[Ryuko]

I really wonder if I'm alone in this... but...

I played the FFXI Summoner, and I loved the FFXI Summoner. It was my favorite job.

I now play the FFXIV Summoner, and I love the FFXIV Summoner. It is my favorite job.

They're two very different jobs but with respect to both the game lore and the overall functionality of the games, they make sense in their own way.

A long time ago, it was mentioned by the dev team that Free Companies would have the ability to 'capture' roaming primals to use at their whim. These primals would have a timer and once used, would disappear back to the world for some other FC to find and capture. This obviously hasn't been implemented or spoken about in a while... but I always hoped that the person needed to actually call upon these temporary primals once captured would be a summoner. Maybe they'd have to 'initiate' the summoning, similar to the way limit breaks are used (except this is a one time use). It's unlikely, as they don't want to give one job an advantage other jobs don't have, but... that's always been my little dream.

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

A long time ago, it was mentioned by the dev team that Free Companies would have the ability to 'capture' roaming primals to use at their whim.

I kinda get the feeling that this has become a feature that is going to apply only to frontlines PvP.

[Shamirah]

The primals will be summoned by FC not SMN so... no.

[Blackcanary]

The primals will be summoned by FC not SMN so... no.

I really hate that idea makes you wonder whats the point in having a summoner. A summoner in FFXIV shouldn't even be called a Summoner it should be called a warlock cause truly that's what it is.

[jars]

I really hate that idea makes you wonder whats the point in having a summoner. A summoner in FFXIV shouldn't even be called a Summoner it should be called a warlock cause truly that's what it is.

a warlock is a summoner that deals specifically with demons

this is like saying you should be calling a square a rhombus

[Tharian]

a warlock is a summoner that deals specifically with demons

Actually that is inaccurate. The word Warlock comes from the Old English word Wærloga which when translated into modern English literally means "Traitor, Liar, or Enemy." The most accurate definition of a Warlock is an individual who breaks their promises on a regular basis. In fact it is entirely applicable to say that a Warlock is simply a Priest who has broken his Oaths to God. It has absolutely nothing to do with the summoning of demons.

Granted the term Warlock is most commonly used to refer to a male Witch, or one who is in league with the Devil, that is actually a fallacy introduced during the Roman and Spanish Inquisitions and is not what the word actually means in a literal sense.

To get technical, a Warlock in Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, would be the equivalent to a Summoner who willingly summons the full form of a Primal and allows it to Temper anyone it comes into contact with. Because that is a breaking of the "Oath" that a Summoner essentially makes when they first embark upon the endeavor of becoming Summoners to begin with.

[Ardan]

Just watch. Some highly intelligent individual will make another thread why SMN sucks, should be changed or my personal favorite: bitching about Egi size.

[Akiza]

Just watch. Some highly intelligent individual will make another thread why SMN sucks, should be changed or my personal favorite: bitching about Egi size.

Every body agrees that their job didn't add much to their class. Summoner's think they don't feel like summoners because they can't summon Primals. Black Mages feel like a THAUMATURGE with a few job specific skills and they don't have a personal meteor skill. Monks don't have a thousand hands of fury and Dragoons just plain complain because they don't have a cool special ability.

[Tharian]

-Summoner's get the ability to summon the Primals with a instant recast time.

This entire post automatically qualifies as "I want to be able to summon Odin and Bahamut at any time I want with no limit." and demonstrates the posters complete lack of Reading Comprehension when it applies to the Summoner Story Arch and the Main Story Arch.

[Akiza]

This entire post automatically qualifies as "I want to be able to summon Odin and Bahamut at any time I want with no limit." and demonstrates the posters complete lack of Reading Comprehension when it applies to the Summoner Story Arch and the Main Story Arch.

I did place limits on summoning the Primals they drain the Summoner's MP which reduced there personal damage. Also I stated that Summoner's should have to make pacts with the Primals to reduce the cost of a Summoning them. Now the developers can tweak it by making it so when a Summoner summons a primal it drains all there MP.