Enter Spamming (crafting)

[Demimatrix]

hello all, I'd like to point out a few things that I would like to address as most crafters have noticed, crafting in XIV isn't enjoyable. it's crucially painful, in 11 i had several 100+ crafts (multiple character's). I find myself having to turn on a movie and spamming my enter button, this is a game. and in so crafting should be more "lenient" even for casual gamers. This system doesn't make that possible. I would like to suggest adding a feature that is unique to WoW, having multiple mats setting the number of syntheses u want preformed then executing said task's. in 11, crafting wasn't as fun but it was bearable. This is excruciatingly painful and it makes me want to pull my hair out, much less not log in. Just a few things I wanted to share before I get to the point I do not want to continue logging in.I understand game play in the leveling has to come first I see that as more important , but nothing I've seen has mentioned any changes to the crafting system and if there has been I'd love to be redirected to said post/reply from the devs

[TheVedis]

hitting enter for standard multiple times isnt any different then what most other games do
the difference is this

1) some games have it to where you just plain always succeed(warcraft)
2) some games its hit or miss(ffxi)
3) in this game, you pretty much have ALOT more control over the hit and miss factor as long as the recipe isnt too high


we dont need an auto crafter, people need to stop suggesting this

[Demimatrix]

The problem is, this is meant to be an enjoyable, game can u seriously sit here and tell me u ENJOY logging in and crafting w/the system that is implemented now? I'm going to say it's bull cause there are many more people that feel the EXACT same way I do, SE remember this is a game, not a job {please} If u want it to feel like a Job I'd love for you to send me a check, in short, wait u plan to have people pay for this? That is a joke. IT ""Isn't"" """"" Enjoyable""""

[TheVedis]

The problem is, this is meant to be an enjoyable, game can u seriously sit here and tell me u ENJOY logging in and crafting w/the system that is implemented now? I'm going to say it's bull cause there are many more people that feel the EXACT same way I do, SE remember this is a game, not a job {please} If u want it to feel like a Job I'd love for you to send me a check, in short, wait u plan to have people pay for this? That is a joke. IT ""Isn't"" """"" Enjoyable""""

name a game where crafting is truely made enjoyable

im sorry, it doesnt exist, its always "lick a button and watch it get made" or so on and so forth....well unless you count puzzle pirates, but thats a game of mini games so it doesnt count

so you cant make it more enjoyable without pretty much adding something like some dumb bejeweled game as tyhe mini game, which im sure people dont really want

[Phenidate]

name a game where crafting is truely made enjoyable

im sorry, it doesnt exist, its always "lick a button and watch it get made" or so on and so forth....well unless you count puzzle pirates, but thats a game of mini games so it doesnt count

I am 100% for a game feature where I lick a button to make something.

That aside: Reducing the amount of presses might help. Make it less than what we need to do now, or at least just vary the number of choices that need to be made based on item complexity.

A system that can't be gamed by the [ahem] less scrupulous players amongst us would be nice. Maybe make it so the inputs chance of success is determined by the colored orbs in the game, abilities you choose to use, and what you end up choosing per option. The end result is an item with some special effect on it you don't get by mashing the standard option like a brainless robot. (If need be resort to the 'Adjective Noun' system for differentiating the items generated this way so we know a 'Burning Velvet Doublet' gives fire resist and a 'Silky Smooth Velvet Doublet' gives a bonus to your fabulousness)

Some luck mixed with the level of your character and the choices you make during the craft shift the end result of the adjective(s) on the item. Do you try to force all standard for stronger armor? Do you mix rapid and standard for less split ends on your fur coat?

What does it end up doing? I don't care. Give us something better than what we got right now. The DoH classes are meant to be worthy of being an actual class so it'd be great if they live up to that.

Just a reminder, aside from the absurd fact that inflicting terrible unwarranted abuse on your enter key to rank 50 is accepted and considered fun by a vocal minority (they must absolutely love that web game "push the button), most people enjoy fun with their games and keyboard wear and tear spread out amongst the 155+ other keys.

I also like sunsets, long walks on the beach and dogs.

[Anty]

hitting enter for standard multiple times isnt any different then what most other games do
the difference is this

1) some games have it to where you just plain always succeed(warcraft)
2) some games its hit or miss(ffxi)
3) in this game, you pretty much have ALOT more control over the hit and miss factor as long as the recipe isnt too high


we dont need an auto crafter, people need to stop suggesting this

you honestly think that a lot of the high lvl crafters actually press the buttons themselves ... lol
some might ...

[TheVedis]

you honestly think that a lot of the high lvl crafters actually press the buttons themselves ... lol
some might ...

i do....

and if they dont, dont blame the game, ban the cheater

[Anty]

i do....

and if they dont, dont blame the game, ban the cheater

1) i blame the repetitive character of crafting and the fact that it takes (even though all classes should have been kinda equal, no matter if you craft or lvl a battleclass) much longer to level a craft then to lvl a battleclass and you need resources for it as well. If they made the crafters, crafters only and didn't pretend they were classes like every other and that you could enjoy the same stuff by only crafting... it would be a different thing.
The way crafting works atm drives people nuts or they start boting or they just stop crafting. It just takes too long. Even crystal processing takes AGES, and this is the base for everything.

2) if SE bans RMT and the boters or people who play and bot every once in a while because the crafting system just plain sux, the world would be empty by now. SE made a game with too many restrictions, mindless timesinks but no challenges on the other hand, and on top of that xp-penalties for focusing on one job -sigh- and they stick to never working things like MW instead of turning the game around so also none- "lobotimized" people can enjoy it.

3) i won't comment on all your lvl 50 classes- unless its a photoshop fake for fun....

[TheVedis]

1) i blame the repetitive character of crafting and the fact that it takes (even though all classes should have been kinda equal, no matter if you craft or lvl a battleclass) much longer to level a craft then to lvl a battleclass and you need resources for it as well. If they made the crafters, crafters only and didn't pretend they were classes like every other and that you could enjoy the same stuff by only crafting... it would be a different thing.
The way crafting works atm drives people nuts or they start boting or they just stop crafting. It just takes too long. Even crystal processing takes AGES, and this is the base for everything.

2) if SE bans RMT and the boters or people who play and bot every once in a while because the crafting system just plain sux, the world would be empty by now. SE made a game with too many restrictions, mindless timesinks but no challenges on the other hand, and on top of that xp-penalties for focusing on one job -sigh- and they stick to never working things like MW instead of turning the game around so also none- "lobotimized" people can enjoy it.

3) i won't comment on all your lvl 50 classes- unless its a photoshop fake for fun....

1) every mmos crafting system is nothing but repetition, so this is no different, doesnt make it ok to bot
2) the world wouldnt be empty with no botters, you just wouldnt have as many multi 50s like i am
3) my 50s are legit, and all real, im one of the few people who probly didnt bot to get them too, its alot of damn hard work

[Perrin_Aybarra]

3) i won't comment on all your lvl 50 classes- unless its a photoshop fake for fun....

I'm sure it's real, some people are just crazy and have way too much time on their hands. Bringing a craft to level 50 is not an accomplishment in my opinion. Mindlessly spamming standard synthesis is the same as botting, even if you pressed the button yourself it's still a robot's job which is even more degrading when you think of it. Some are proud of their "hard work" though and that is why they are against any sensible and intelligent changes.