When is enough really enough ???? [DEV]

[Dreamer]

SE needs to let their devs do what they're trained and paid for, instead of throwing in everything that people whine for here on the forums. Anyone who has worked in customer service can tell you that the costumer is definitely not always right; in fact, they're wrong more often than not.

The game that was described by the devs in the Making of a Realm video that came with the CE is the game I want to play. Every post I see relayed by the community reps here seem to be taking the game farther and farther away from that idea.

[Rydin]

SE needs to let their devs do what they're trained and paid for, instead of throwing in everything that people whine for here on the forums. Anyone who has worked in customer service can tell you that the costumer is definitely not always right; in fact, they're wrong more often than not.

The game that was described by the devs in the Making of a Realm video that came with the CE is the game I want to play. Every post I see relayed by the community reps here seem to be taking the game farther and farther away from that idea.

Most importantly.... The community is split right down the middle on every issue... So 50% of people will always be pissed.
Every thing they add will be hated and loved.
They could implement chocobos today and half the people would love it and half would hate the way they implemented it
They could add Triple Triad and again, half would love it.. 25% of people would be mad that they got it from another FF game and 25% would be made that its not tetra master....
But that 25% that wanted tetra master would be super vocal and make 4000 threads about it and make a big fuss...
So SE would alter the game to add more Tetra master elements and then half the people that loved that it was triple triad would be pissed but not everyone that wanted tetra master would be happy...
Endless cycle of Death... just like Spira....
Only instead of Sin being reborn constantly, its forum trolls....

[Wolfie]

SE needs to let their devs do what they're trained and paid for, instead of throwing in everything that people whine for here on the forums. Anyone who has worked in customer service can tell you that the costumer is definitely not always right; in fact, they're wrong more often than not.

Is that why their game has failed in almost every sense and is the pariah of MMOs?

And for the record, a s***ty customer service job for a retail company or whatever is not the same as a software developer looking to sell a product or fulfill a service agreement. The customer IS always right in those cases, because if you tell them they're not or don't do what he asks, you're going to be tossed aside for someone who will (as evidenced by the ~20k users who are still playing this game, out of a 600k shipped units).

[nibelunc]

They only had to improve and fix the points which have needed to in this game but the problem is that they are going to implement many new different things players - but way not all players want (imo examples: jumping, maybe monster mounts, bonus exp, casual+, ... and way too much copied things from other games I never wanted to play). And they are making this game way too easy to play. I'm really fine with changing the battle system and work on menus, implementing content etc. and I agree with implementing the traditional jobs (i'm really unhappy with the way they're gonna implement them) but I have the feeling that they are going to lose the direction of this game by implementing too many different things... I want this game to be a Final Fantasy with its own style and own ideas.

[NefGP]

Is that why their game has failed in almost every sense and is the pariah of MMOs?

This could very well be the single most ignorant statement made yet. The original game direction was unique and and potentially revolutionary. I really liked where Komoto was taking the game, but facts of it were simply that he & Tanaka blatantly chose to ignore the response of the Beta testers and adjust the content accordingly while delaying the game for at least another year.

I still feel that given the extra year, XIV could have launched with it's original soul intact and offered us all something truly different and fun, instead of the FFXI 2.0 direction it's increasingly headed in. I've been playing FFXI since 2003, and continue to love it, but I don't need a 2nd iteration of it. I want to play FFXIV.

[ZenGetsu]

Seeing as how your thread on gear swapping was promptly shot down by community rep response, I'd say this statement is false.

bahahahahaha this

[Moth]

Yeah this game is getting pretty bad. Time to find something else :c

[Wolfie]

This could very well be the single most ignorant statement made yet. The original game direction was unique and and potentially revolutionary. I really liked where Komoto was taking the game, but facts of it were simply that he & Tanaka blatantly chose to ignore the response of the Beta testers and adjust the content accordingly while delaying the game for at least another year.

I still feel that given the extra year, XIV could have launched with it's original soul intact and offered us all something truly different and fun, instead of the FFXI 2.0 direction it's increasingly headed in. I've been playing FFXI since 2003, and continue to love it, but I don't need a 2nd iteration of it. I want to play FFXIV.

Aside from the graphics, there wasn't a single redeeming thing about this game throughout alpha, beta, open beta, and retail until Yoshida took over.

[darkstarpoet1]

Aside from the graphics, there wasn't a single redeeming thing about this game throughout alpha, beta, open beta, and retail until Yoshida took over.

i actually have to disagree. there were many things that needed fixing, but the game had a nice core system in place that needed to be fixed and a severe lack of content. then yoshi took over and even those are being removed.

[Ilean]

This could very well be the single most ignorant statement made yet. The original game direction was unique and and potentially revolutionary.[/B]

In some parallel universe maybe.

In this one the original game direction was crap, just the fact that they even thought that their original game design could be successful denotes how hopelessly doomed to failure it was.

Tanaka is just like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOOw2yWMSfk

So disconnected with what a fun MMO is that he never had a chance.

then yoshi took over and even those are being removed.

So both the majority of the community and SE chose to have what you call redeeming qualities removing?

Some redeeming!