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    What happened to all the old guild masters?

    All the 2.0 guild masters are different people then their old 1.0 counterparts. So, what happened to the other guild masters? Did they retire? Were they killed by the calamity? It's always bothered me why the guild masters aren't the same. And what's more, the current ones with maybe the exception of Mylla, really don't even mention the old guild masters.

    Where did they go?
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    Some guildmasters are still around.
    The old Armorer guildmaster is still making boats, except he's no longer part of the guild itself, you meet him as part of the MSQ when you fight Siren the first time (and interestingly, his story in 1.0 had you make brass earplugs because you were dealing with rumors of a siren. GUESS WHAT HE STILL HAD WITH HIM).

    The actual guildmaster of the old alchemist's guild is PROBABLY still the master of the actual medicine shop, but since the guild has effectively split (most guilds have actively split from their mother organizations) he haven't been mentioned.

    The fisherman guildmaster is STILL the same, it's just that the one that does all the guildmaster job is his companion (a thing that was going in 1.0 as well)

    Some guilds are left unexplained, yes, although Serendipity (goldsmith) mentions the one retired and the Miner guildmaster mentions she just recently was given the role as the old retired as well.
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    Actually, the armorer, while still the same, is the Miqote outside, where she's always been. The Smith master was Mimidoa (sp).

    The Old Lancer and Archer masters are around, but they're not guild masters. You see Godwin from the Archers and you meet the Lancer master in his personal chambers during the Gridania story.

    The Conjurer master is actually still where he's always been, the Padjal E-Sumi-Yan. I'm curious what happened to O-App-Pesi though... Also, the Botanist guild leader is still the same. The ones that have changed are:
    Miners
    Goldsmith
    Blacksmith (Still In Game)
    Marauder
    Gladiator
    Lancer (Still in game)
    Archer (Still in game)
    Thaumaturge
    Pugilist
    Arcanist (You visited that guild at met the master in the 1.0 story, their disappearance is a major point of the ARC story now.)
    Weavers

    Ones that are still there:
    Botanist
    Conjurer
    Alchemists
    Fisher

    No Clue:
    Culiniarian
    Leatherworkers?
    Carpenters (I think it's the same guy...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    The Old Lancer and Archer masters are around, but they're not guild masters. You see Godwin from the Archers and you meet the Lancer master in his personal chambers during the Gridania story.
    Actually you're getting them mixed up. It's Lewin who ran the ARC's Guild in 1.0 whom you meet during the Gridanian ARR storyline (who has swank chambers in the ARC's Guild to boot) - and in 1.0 he actually did state he was actually the Guildmaster of the ARC's Guild (as well as leading the God's Quiver):

    Quote Originally Posted by version 1.0 main scenario quest "Whispers in the Wood."
    "We meet at last. I'm Lewin, guildmaster here. I run this rabble of chocobos' arses what call themselves archers."
    However, given the fact it was revealed much of the 1.0 starting city storylines were actually within the Echo, it's likely in reality by the 'present' day in 1.0 that was probably no longer the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    The Conjurer master is actually still where he's always been, the Padjal E-Sumi-Yan. I'm curious what happened to O-App-Pesi though...
    O-App has returned to the forest for mediation as the padjal often do - its the story reason in 1.0 why Kan-E-Senna and her siblings weren't around at first - they were in the forest in communion with the elementals, and only returned due to the events leading up to the Calamity. And the original 1.0 Gridanian storyline started with E-Sumi as well returning to Gridania in similar circumstances (upon entering the city, an npc exclaimed "Brother E-Sumi is back from the wood". So they frequently have periods where they're out in the forest away from the city. In any event, a level 30ish quest involving Odin features O-App briefly (you speak to him in Quarrymill).

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    Also, the Botanist guild leader is still the same.
    Yeah, Fufucha is still around, although her outfit is completely different to 1.0. But she's at least still Guildmistress of the BTNs Guild.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    The ones that have changed are:
    Marauder
    That's not surprising, given the whole guildhall itself has moved from the Astalica into the Coral Tower. One of the Yellowjackets there actually mentions why this happened (Limsa's government decided to expunge the MRD class of it's 'pirate roots' by giving it an air of legitimacy, hence moving it from a docked pirate ship into the HQ of the Knights of the Barracuda. So a change in Guildmaster would also be natural.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    Gladiator
    This was the big question mark for me. There is no explanation as to what happened to Yoyobina in 1.0. It's possible he might have retired, be forcibly removed from his position (by a member of the Syndicate annoyed with Raubahn perhaps?) or been killed in the Calamity (Ul'dah after all clearly took damage during Dalamud's fall), but nothing is stated in game as far as I can tell. Mylla doesn't mention her predecessor at all, which is a shame, as I liked him in 1.0.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    Lancer (Still in game)
    I'm not sure, but from what I understood (I never levelled LNC in 1.0) Swethyna was the Guildmistress of the LNC Guild, but, I think I might be confusing 'leader of the Wood Wailers' with 'LNC Guildmaster'. Having said that, Lewin is likewise the leader of the God's Quiver still in ARR, yet my above quote he clearly stated himself as ARC Guildmaster as well, so I guess the two roles were complimentary, as least before the Calamity. In any event, I haven't seen Swethyna anywhere in ARR, other than this piece of official ARR artwork you can just see her standing next to Lewin fittingly on the far top left side of the image.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    No Clue:

    Leatherworkers?
    If I remember rightly, Geva is still around, yet she's no longer the actual Guildmistress - someone else has taken her place. Having said that, looking at my 1.0 screenshots, Geva was never actually directly stated as being 'Guildmistress', but just as a 'master' leatherworker. Given the other Guilds actually had their Guildmasters shown or referred to though in that storyline, it's likely she really was the LWR Guildmistress.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    Carpenters (I think it's the same guy...)
    Again I'm not sure - in 1.0 the Gridanian story featured a CTR named Zezetuka, but again he was never directly mentioned as the actual Guildmaster, only that he was elderly and was an actual master of the craft. But again, 'master' and actual 'Guildmaster' are two totally different things. In any event, I don't ever remember seeing Beatin in the Guild in 1.0, not that I ever actually did take up woodworking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    If I remember rightly, Geva is still around, yet she's no longer the actual Guildmistress - someone else has taken her place. Having said that, looking at my 1.0 screenshots, Geva was never actually directly stated as being 'Guildmistress', but just as a 'master' leatherworker. Given the other Guilds actually had their Guildmasters shown or referred to though in that storyline, it's likely she really was the LWR Guildmistress.
    Incorrect. Geva has been guildmaster of the Fen-yll leatherworkers for at least fifteen years. The difference was that in 1.0 she was engaged through the main scenario, where as in 2.0 she is engaged through the class quests. She was still guildmaster the whole time.

    It is the person assigned to you as your "mentor" in v1.0 that seems to have faded into irrevelancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catapult View Post
    Incorrect. Geva has been guildmaster of the Fen-yll leatherworkers for at least fifteen years. The difference was that in 1.0 she was engaged through the main scenario, where as in 2.0 she is engaged through the class quests. She was still guildmaster the whole time.

    It is the person assigned to you as your "mentor" in v1.0 that seems to have faded into irrevelancy.
    Ah, I see now. I was too lazy to clarify that with my ARR screenshots, so I just stupidly relied on my less-than-stellar memory, and hence failed.

    I haven't levelled CPR either so a lot of that was guesswork on my part as well. Thanks for the clarification.
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    Actually, the armorer, while still the same, is the Miqote outside, where she's always been. The Smith master was Mimidoa (sp).
    I kind've think Mimidoa was BOTH ARM & BSM Guildmaster in v1. Their story was the same, that I know of, and I didn't get any BSM quests after I finished all the ARM ones in v1. I can't really say much for the rest, I don't remember doing much for the guilds in v1...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
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    I don't think this was mentioned yet in the thread, but Yayake is still in the game; she just serves as the receptionist instead of the guildmaster now, and even makes a reference to the old 1.0 quests where she'd shove a bunch of books on thaumaturgy in your face expecting you to read them. (although the Ossuary has since abolished that rule post-Calamity to be more welcoming to newcomers.)

    That might also kind of explain to new players why she's featured in the level 30 BLM quest since those were pretty much copy/pasted from 1.0.
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    Oh, O-App-Pesi is featured in the White Mage quests, it appears that he is busier than ever with his duty as a padjal that does not involves the Stillglade Fane.
    It serves to remind some guilds were not so much guilds but other institutions offering training (Miner's guild was the Amajina & Sons, Archer's guild was the God's Quiver, Lancer's Guild was the Woodwailers), some had guildmaster shifts when the guilds became independant (even if, for say, the Miner's Guild is in a space rented from Amajina is pretty much has offer it's top miners to them to keep independant).

    Lusavari has a good list, I think he's got it correct!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    Oh, O-App-Pesi is featured in the White Mage quests, it appears that he is busier than ever with his duty as a padjal that does not involves the Stillglade Fane.
    I don't recall him being in the WHM quests, but I do recall seeing O-App-Pepsi during the Odin questline (started from Urianger, I believe it's called Primal Fear?)
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