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    World Progression Thread

    As most of us are aware each server has basically been tracking individual progression from launch until now. I would like to provide an opportunity to establish a system that will track world progression among the best guilds from every server.

    Here is a link to the spreadsheet:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=5

    I have provided example guilds to show what a ranking would look like and how the rankings work. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE SUBMISSION PROCESS BEFORE 2.2 LAUNCH. This will save me a ton of work and time and I will be able to keep the thread as up to date as possible.

    In order to have a kill counted it must have ALL of the following:
    1. Guild/Linkshell name with server and region included Ex. Modified <MOD> Gilgamesh US/EU
    2. Time of Kill -> Screen shot of time from website: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldcloc...en.html?n=1440 NOTE: YOU MUST SUBMIT KILLS IN UTC OR THEY WILL NOT COUNT
    3. Screen shot/video of kill NOTE: if you submit a video PLEASE edit your video/give time of kill. I WILL NOT search around your 4+ hours of wiping to find the one good attempt you had.
    4. Screen shot of achievement
    5. Proof of membership in FC or LS The easiest way to do this is to open the party menu (o) while not in the duty server and screen shot that for FC. For linkshell open active linkshells and screenshot all 8 people. If you have a gazillion people online in your raiding Linkshell MAKE A NEW ONE SO ALL 8 MEMBERS ARE VISABLE AT ONE TIME

    Essentially, the fights must be recorded linearly. At least for this tier, that is how it will be done. Even if you could skip turns, don't be bad. The first boss is historically the easiest, even in cases where first isn't easiest, traditionally the times are the closest to one another on first boss. We also have the problem of not having consistent launch days, nor do we have the same timezones (or raid times for that matter). To adjust for that, the FIRST boss fight, is worth less points than all the rest (In this case, point decay is 12X (or 1/2 a point every hour). Normal will be 1 point an hour. To adjust for the difficulty, and also to award the guilds for first clear, only the last boss is worth more than normal at 48x (2 points an hour).

    This is a time based point system that ranks guilds based on overall performance in coil. I have decided to NOT include both Leviathan EM and King Mog EM as I believe both of these fights are not apart of core progression. My reasons for doing this system based on time and points rather than just "first one to kill the boss" is to protect against some of the most common complaints:
    1. Nerf Protection- by killing something pre nerf you get extra time on the next boss, and most times the first kill on the next boss which gets you extra points anyway.
    2. Timezone protection - Timzones are less problematic because you aren't dealing with static points - by scaling the first boss ( it deteriorates at half the rate of T7 and T8 and a quarter of the rate of T9) you are effected even less by timezone issues.
    3. Last kill being most important: Mostly through scaling, the last kill becomes the most important by punishing those who do not kill it quickly after the first.
    4. Default points being set to 10,000: to prevent the last boss from being obsolete from latecomers and to prevent a guild who has killed all but one fight and has quit the game from being ranked higher than an active guild that has killed all the fights.

    Last but certainly not least, THERE IS A ZERO TOLERANCE FOR EXPLOITED KILLS OR CHEATING. IF YOU SUBMIT AN EXPLOITED KILL YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THIS THREAD AND ALL KILLS WILL BE DISCREDITED FROM YOU.
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    Last edited by Kupo_owns; 03-28-2014 at 05:04 AM. Reason: More information

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    Hey Raynor. I'm not sure a google doc will be able to handle the sheer amount of traffic it will get come 2.2; just thinking allowed. If that ends up being the case you're more than welcome to use the Behemoth progression thread coding.
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    some type of controlled submit must be initiated or the list will blow up due to baddies
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    Quote Originally Posted by EikoCeuracanth View Post
    Hey Raynor. I'm not sure a google doc will be able to handle the sheer amount of traffic it will get come 2.2; just thinking allowed. If that ends up being the case you're more than welcome to use the Behemoth progression thread coding.
    Hey guys, First of all thanks for voicing concerns. As to the first one, if this does become the case I will probably lock down everything and just simply post results on the thread if needed. IF I do have to, then I will absolutely use code but I don't foresee that really happening. I would have to use the doc anyway for the points system I established. It does however take an enormous amount of traffic for this to happen. I have seen google docs support a ton of traffic (a good example of this is Puro Strider's awesome google doc for BLM's found here) and a ton of data and still be fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Martialbob View Post
    some type of controlled submit must be initiated or the list will blow up due to baddies
    This was one of my concerns as well, but I'm assuming the first couple bosses of coil will be very crowded in terms of kills, and the last couple (hopefully) will weed out the trash guild kills and keep it relatively clean. If it does end up where everything is just easy mode kill (not likely the case) then I'm only displaying the first 30 kills on the last two bosses. After world 30 on the two hardest most important bosses I frankly really don't care.
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    This was one of my concerns as well, but I'm assuming the first couple bosses of coil will be very crowded in terms of kills, and the last couple (hopefully) will weed out the trash guild kills and keep it relatively clean. If it does end up where everything is just easy mode kill (not likely the case) then I'm only displaying the first 30 kills on the last two bosses. After world 30 on the two hardest most important bosses I frankly really don't care.

    I'd say probably top 50, but agreed completely on the point.

    Thanks again for doing this.
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    Bumping for awareness for 2.2. Patch is less than 5 days away!
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    Think a world progression thread is silly. Just my opinion don't get heated on it or anything. There's already ways to address a certain crowd through individual server forums. (Posting screen shot kills and what not.) meh. ~ To each their own. ^^ (Also the epeen of the community slapping each other around I don't want it. )
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    Bump for 2.2 launching in less than 15 hours.
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    Blighted Bouquet > us
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    shinra also killed Levi EX world 3rd? ->
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