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    What you and your group can do to help with evading weight of lands is set designated areas where designated players would stand for Weight of Lands, splitting the weights to 1/2 each area reducing the total damage should you get caught.

    For example.

    North: MT , Titan, OT behind titan
    East: DPS, Healer
    West: DPS, Healer
    South: DPS, DPS

    Use waymarks to mark areas. Keep the waymarks in the orange centre. Goodluck!
    Best used when you and the team have memorized the entire rotation so you know when to expect WotL
    (This strategy shouldn't be used post heart phase due to Gaoler puddles)
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    Last edited by FallenWings; 03-18-2014 at 08:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    (This strategy shouldn't be used post heart phase due to Gaoler puddles)
    Why have different strategies for different phases? People would get confused and be like omg which phase is this, where do I go. One consistent strategy for the whole fight for the same mechanics is fine. If one person is lagging, maybe they shouldn't attempt it at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    Why have different strategies for different phases? People would get confused and be like omg which phase is this, where do I go. One consistent strategy for the whole fight for the same mechanics is fine. If one person is lagging, maybe they shouldn't attempt it at that time.
    The point of it is to remove the risk of getting lol7wotlinstagib for preheart phase WoTL for people who have trouble dodging WoTL perfectly or suddenly encountered an unexpected lag spike allowing them to live through it maybe.
    If people are confused about which phase is which after very clear phase transitions (titan jumps, new rotation) they wouldn't be fairing any better either way.

    Its not exactly complicated either. Split WoTL pre-heart phases, Use 'normal' everyone stack behind titan post-heart.


    Sometimes you don't have to follow a video guide step for step and can make or alter strategies that work for your group.
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    Yeah but if people can't get past the lol7wotlinstagib in pre-heart, they can't get past double lol7wotlinstagib after heart neither. :/ So why make a strategy to prevent failure at one part when another strategy works for all of them? Also you're calling for at least 2 range DPS instead of whoever is capable. Titan is not a melee unfriendly fight. Why are you trying to make it unfriendly?

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    Its to help mitigate those times you have one unsuspected lag spike in pre heart phases. If it helps why not?
    If they can dodge using my suggested method how is the full stack any different besides a guaranteed death to anyone besides the tank should they lag at that specific moment. If you were getting hit by the split weights that most likely brought you down to below 20% hp you would still do everything in your power to avoid that because you can anyways. The full stack is unnecessary punishment if there are alternatives. It's really not a big different strategy since you're dodging one move differently.
    Just because it can work for all phases doesn't means its the best for all phases.

    In regards to the dps. Once again, it doesn't have to be strictly like my suggested designation. Both healers can be at South so the 4 melee dps are closer to titan to reconnect. (Not that should be any issue since a 2 sec disconnect has minimal consequences. People also stop attacking entirely to dodge WotL using the full stack method)

    I'm not trying to invalidate the "traditional" method. Just giving an alternate route be it harder or easier that can possibly help certain groups achieve the same end result; a clear. Be flexible!




    ... New idea to help with post heart that is similiar. 2 stack West, 4 stack south, puddles east.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    People also stop attacking entirely to dodge WotL using the full stack method)
    Uhm no. I don't stop DPSing at all when I stack and I know for sure people don't neither. BLM can DPS with Scathe, SMN can use Ruin2 during WoTL, everyone else just go on with their DPS.
    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    ... New idea to help with post heart that is similiar. 2 stack West, 4 stack south, puddles east.
    This helps the 2 that stack West but put the 4 that stacks South in the same boat as stacked plumes. Getting hit by 2 plumes usually mean death cause plumes do 2.7k-3k damage iirc. So eating 2 plumes or all plumes are no different. Also, if you do that during double plumes, the second plume set will be stacked at center.

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    Sorry about the misunderstanding (typing on a mobile device at 5am in the morning can get a little hnnnnnnnnnngggghjkkl). Some people stop dpsing for a split second because they want to focus on dodging WotL. Its not a humongous DPS loss as GL stacks and combo potentials last long enough. I agree that its better to maintain dps when dodging but what good is a dead dps. If it helps then it helps simple as that. What difference would it make for range DPS if they were using my suggested strategy as opposed to the full stack? Not to mention its sometimes better to halt for a bit to secure positional moves as a melee dps, Demolish(When not clipping)>Snap Punch and the Dragoon combo positional lock (does not has a high level drg yet soz).

    The main point is that at least 2 people don't have to deal with lethal stacks. I don't remember individual WotLs doing that much. But I'm unsubbed at the moment so can't test it out. I remember my 8.4khp warrior can survive lol7wotlinstagib with less than 10% hp left and my 4.4k monk can survive 2. When using the fullstack method you can't guarantee that everyone will be dodging in different directions putting up the possibility that you have to dodge another full stack. My suggestion at the very least ensures that the first set, 2 people can have a non lethal WotL stack.

    If your group is capable you can do West, Southwest, South or wherever there are no gaoler puddles. :O
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    Last edited by FallenWings; 03-19-2014 at 10:30 AM. Reason: I had to retype it again because I didn't copy it properly the first time ; ;

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    You probably had Lustrate and Stoneskin on, assuming you get hit at the start of the battle. I just did Titan EX last night and it hit 2.7k single on my monk. There are also not 7, maybe like 5 plumes iirc. I just use that term cause you used it. I see how it can help for 2 people with a known sporadic lag spike but I guess I'm just used to playing with people that dodge well and have good connection at this point. Though a problem I could see is that there's little time to bait the weight of the land in the configuration you suggest after tumult where cure 3 is indisputably best.

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