Game is in a desperate need of challenge.

[Amberion]

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I only really tried official RO. Tried a few private servers on it though. And it was pretty much like all Korean MMORPGs. A lot of solo grinding.

And I wouldn't base much of an opinion around of how RO was. I think RO pretty much made the F2P or pay 2 win category, since all those game seems to follow how RO was/is.

But I was commenting on this: "If the "old times" are the ones in which the only rewarded people were the nolifers that keeps logged 24/7"

And at least in those games I have played, it wasn't only the "nolifers" that got rewarded. It was just that they got rewarded a bit more. Time/effort payed off.

[LalaRu]

You know, "a bit more" means everything on that games. One point of armor out of 100, seems nothing but at that times, were making the difference between " the best" and the average. Yes I admit I were a little elite-sided a long time ago, and the only ones going forward me, were people who really were playing 24/7 with shared account. That the reason of my comment. It really happened.

[LunarEmerald]

Grinding is not a challenge.

[Bizniztyme]

I have to say you are wrong here.

NM hunting had you competing with other characters. And no, everything wasn't camped by RMT or with bots. Not only that, most RMT where useless at claiming.

XP party. i was a ranger, so I had to know when or if to pull depending on party information. Not to link it with other mobs and so on.

I even went around and tried to solo a lot of high level NMs. And I have to say that my fight against Cassie was more challenging then Titan here.

I could go on with things, but think that is enough of examples.

In this game, the hardest thing is getting competent players.

LOL, I can say the same thing about all your examples, the hardest thing was to find competent players.

[LalaRu]

Grinding is not a challenge.

The real challenge there was not to die while grinding.

About challenge defined as difficult mechanics of an encounter, still have to find a game that, after memorizing patterns and all, encounters do not fall into grinding. When I see "we have T4 on farm stage" isn't that become grinding?

Again, I will go back to my first reply. People who finds the game not challenging are a minority. If devs will make a coil turn impossible to finish by besign, forum will be crowded by crying "omg too much challenging" issues.

Does not exists the "correct grade" of challenge. A Gladys Knight's quote on the matter: "you can't please everyone in concert, even though I still want to. Someone always wants you to sing a song that isn't necessarily on your set list."

[TheUltimate3]

Note; after Absolute Virtue they will never do something like this again, but they should make a boss that is unbeatable by design.

They just don't tell us that. Tell us the boss is in fact defeatable.

And proceed to release said boss that changes strategies and battle tactics at the drop of a hat, randomly dropping all aggro on the tank and start cleaving the dps for no reason before suddenly jumping wildly, switching weapons and abilities and generally being impossible to strategies around.

Once that boss has been released, SE should catalog and study the results.

[Gamemako]

The real challenge there was not to die of boredom while grinding.

Fixed that for you.

[LalaRu]

Fixed that for you.

That makes me lol, so true, so true...

[Sessurea]

basically you want a trophie. T5 weap should suffice for now right? Damn I'd be proud if I had one of those ...

But items gained through no-life time sinks are not trophies, more like no life sign.

[TornadoFury]

we are all basicaly playing a easier version of the game "memory" and praying no one lags during a 1 hit kill mechanic. 8 players with 5 star internet can destroy content in less then a month if they use logic.