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    Quote Originally Posted by dragorian View Post
    i was in titan ex and a player was constantly complaining the dps was to slow and how one know that with out useing a parser he/she was contantanly being disruptive to every one and we stared to mess up alot so since this person was starting to iratate me so i just left and took the 30 min penalty since the game offers me a lot of stuff to do i wont play with ppl that harrases with a parser
    So the player did not attack you and was pointing out the issue the group was having without singling out anyone or harassing anyone.

    From my point of view you are the abuser since you left like an angry elitist, just not about failing but about someone pointing out the group weakness.

    Yeah it is 100% his fault and not yours /s. The funny part is that you are assuming he is using a parser while Titan Ex is the easiest fight in the game to identify group DPS level, low or high. How? Easy, Titan rotations are based on his health, he ends one rotation and start the other based on Damage done to him or rather his health %. It is 100% possible to end his phase rotations before they are even halfway through based on high dps and vice versa if DPS was low.

    No wonder players such as yourself are struggling with Titan Ex, you are not willing to try or improve. Please carry me is the motto of such behaviour.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 03-18-2014 at 04:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    So the player did not attack you and was pointing out the issue the group was having without singling out anyone or harassing anyone.

    From my point of view you are the abuser since you left like an angry elitist, just not about failing but about someone pointing out the group weakness.

    Yeah it is 100% his fault and not yours /s. The funny part is that you are assuming he is using a parser while Titan Ex is the easiest fight in the game to identify group DPS level, low or high. How? Easy, Titan rotations are based on his health, he ends one rotation and start the other based on Damage done to him or rather his health %. It is 100% possible to end his phase rotations before they are even halfway through based on high dps and vice versa if DPS was low.

    No wonder players such as yourself are struggling with Titan Ex, you are not willing to try or improve. Please carry me is the motto of such behaviour.
    first of all you calling me an elitist you are wrong i dont even get to play much unlike those whom can play 8hrs or more i have a full time job a wife and i see her only 3 hours a day if i am lucky she works full time day and i full time night so i get maybe 3hours a day if i am lucky and i never was carried in any event i actully worked for it and i never used the so called parser and i have been playing since release it took me eight months to level dom and dow in which i worked hard for all that and any player is not obligated to stay in any part of the game after all it is just a game and i have a life i run all the arronds during the day wile the wife is at work as well as house work and make her dinner for when she gets home so in my book family first game second and if some one is irratating me i dont have to stay i have never beaten bcob thorn march , i have no allgen gear i have only mnk geared execpt belt and jewlery and crappy gear on the othrs and snm/sch only at 30
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragorian View Post
    i never was carried in any event i actully worked for it and i never used the so called parser
    There is literally NO WAY you can say with any certainty that you were not carried if you do not use a parser.

    It is simply impossible to make a claim like that as fact. More often than not people who believe this garbage are trash themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragorian View Post
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    Just on a couple of things you said... how often you play does not determine whether you are an elitist or not, so countering with how often you play doesn't disprove that statement. Elitist would be a state of mind where you put yourself above others (for whatever reason you deem valid). The thinking they're above others usually ends up resulting in a person leaving when groups aren't up to their standard, or raging on others. Giving the illusion you're better than someone else by listing your real life accomplishments and implying others aren't "family first", or don't have a life because they don't agree with you, can also be considered elitist.

    Also, as someone else pointed out.. without really knowing your dps, you can't be 100% sure you're not being carried. This game actually relies a lot less on gear than people think. A nicely skilled group can easily get through T4 in Coil in nothing but Darklight gear. It all comes down to using the correct skills when those skills are needed, and most people actually don't make any effort to look into rotations for their class, or spend time at training dummies to figure it out for themselves. A lot of those people end up doing sub-par dps, and can easily hold a group back. You can't tell who it is without a parser though, at least not anywhere near easily (you'd have to take your focus off the boss, watch the other players, and know what the rotations and buffs for all the other classes were).. so what happens is people end up scolding all of dps. Those scolding people, are going to scold regardless of parser involvement. If they're doing so without constructive criticism, and just insulting, then they're likely the jerks. If them scolding is "dps isn't high enough, make sure to use cooldowns during x phase" then.. that's not insulting at all, or annoying. That also doesn't prove that person has a parser. In fact, if the person were being general, they likely don't run a parser at all.. otherwise they'd be able to single low dps out and go from there.
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