Parsers

[Noahlimits]

The fights you just named are basically all about Boss rotations. There is no need for Parsers in any of those fights. You can tell if people are slacking from how long the fight lasts, to if the boss is adding in more of their rotations because you are taking long and then there is enraged mode boss for when you take really long. When people keep dying its prob because they refuse to learn the boss Rotations. But that is something that can easily be taught. I cant tell if you like parsers or not from what you wrote xD.

P.s Can you tell me how you are able to write so much x.x I feel as if im limited to writing.

Editing your post gets past the character limit. Also, how do you determine which party member is holding you back if the fight lasts long? You can't just say "all you dps are lacking" when it could just be 1-2 people holding you back.

[HeroSamson]

Tashigi its not up to you who decides if they have fun or not this is the whole point. They pay monthly doesn't matter if they are bad players then help them out or leave the party yourself.

If you say why should you leave when they suck, easy because you have a problem with it clearly they don't meet your standards, so you leave you shouldn't even have the right to choose who stays or goes.

I see it all the time, same excuse is used people saying why don't you help explain fight instead of ragging on them, they say I have enough as it is to worry about myself, I think to myself but they have enough time to parser someone else but don't have enough time to explain the fight. just excuses.

[Sunarie]

The fights you just named are basically all about Boss rotations. There is no need for Parsers in any of those fights.

I disagree, there are points in those fights that are definite dps checks, and things a parser can help with that maybe happened too quickly for people to take notice during the fight. It is possible for people to not get Titan's heart down in time, and overall damage look won't tell you heart damage or anything, but there are different ways of breaking down the information. The same goes for Garuda extreme's sisters. If you don't get them down in time they all go to the center and scream. The same is also true for conflag's in Twin, don't get those down fast enough and people die. There are also instances where things die that shouldn't, so knowing who may be stunning, or hitting a mob they shouldn't be is useful. All bosses also have an enrage, as you mentioned.. which shows that dps isnt up to par, but it is entirely possible that someone isn't pulling their weight, or anywhere near it which could make all the difference between passing and failing. I am not talking about instances that are plainly visible, like someone getting killed, I am talking about when a fight seems to be going fine otherwise (but could seem slow), but suddenly you hit an enrage, or the sisters don't die, or conflag blows up.

I like when parsers are used correctly, and I realize there are people who don't use them correctly. I don't like when people use them to berate others, but I don't think they -cause- people to berate others. Just like I don't think having the presence of tank and healing classes in a game causes people to turn into jerks and the like. Just cause some tanks have said "speed run or GTFO" and then griefs when no one will do it doesn't mean we should pull the tanking class from the game. Nor does some people going crazy with insults when a tank forgets to put shield oath up mean we should pull tanks out of the game. Being a jerk is not an okay thing in any circumstance, and jerks do need to go away. I do think people need to stop placing blame on the things people might use to be jerks, and place more blame on the folks being jerks though. I don't approve of taking away useful tools (such as parsers, or whispers in dungeons, or even emotes which can be useful tools for role players) because of the people who are going to abuse them, especially when there is a way to separate yourself from those who would abuse (by making your own group, or joining a group of like-minded people, which is what I do).

As others have mentioned, I get long posts by going back and hitting the edit post button, and then adding to the original. This bypasses the character limit.

[Arkghyom]

As long as people don't harass other players using parsers, I guess it's fine.

[Recaldy]

First person to cry parser wins.

[Amberion]

I see it all the time, same excuse is used people saying why don't you help explain fight instead of ragging on them, they say I have enough as it is to worry about myself, I think to myself but they have enough time to parser someone else but don't have enough time to explain the fight. just excuses.

Why should good players teach people who don't want to learn? If they had wanted to learn, they would have done so themselves. Rotations and such are easy to find for anyone who actually wants to.

I think to myself but they have enough time to parser someone else but don't have enough time to explain the fight. just excuses.

A parser takes 5 sec to start. And can be done before even entering a fight/instance. After it's started, it runs in the background, no work involved.

And as for raging on them... Never personally seen that happen, my guess is that it don't happen that much. Most of the time it's just a statement that their DPS is to low/bad.

[HeroSamson]

How do you know they don't want to learn?

I don't know about you but I used to help people out on Bismarck FFXI all the time, even if I finished what I had done explaining is not a problem I am not lazy, I don't need programs either to check how well I do or others, if we lose a few times no big deal pick yourself up fight again till we win if they quit let them at least they didn't get kicked.

[Casper]

So..because "you" know plenty of people that use it that way. I guess your statement is valid enough to say the whole community is like this...Sorry it does not work that way. Just because u know some people that use it, as you say. Does not mean that there aren't people who use it how I say. And as I said before, those people you know obviously don't understand stand that much of the game if they have to use a third party program to tell them if someone is doing max Dps. When im a party leader I do not need a program to tell if someone is doing their job. If the person keeps dying then I will help them on how to avoid things. As long as the job gets done then u are playing properly. I can look at their character to see if they are actually playing or just spamming 2 moves.

You are so full of shit.

What you are saying is just plain not true. First of all "not dieing" is nowhere near good enough. Good luck beating enrage timers if you do that, be it in garuda ex (sister phases), titan ex (hard enrage), ifrit ex (nails), or twintania (conflag, snakes, hard enrage). It is also pretty hard to tell who is the slacker without any help, and shouting on all dps "goddammit up your deeps !" is not helping. A parser can help analyze the rotations, etc. It also allow to see who is using ballad etc. Obviously you have to be smart about how you use it, like any tool.

Another point: melee looking bad on parse must be a joke. Except on garuda, good melee are going to knock you out of your socks and make your blm especially looks like total noobs on a parse.

Anyway. You simply have absolutely zero idea of what you are talking about.

[Zell1226]

Look, if someone calls you out on having low DPS, why would you cry about it on the forums? The world isn't your personal hugbox. "Oh well maybe if they offered constructive criticism it would be ok!". What if the guy calling you out on your low DPS doesn't play your job? How is he gonna help you? You have to first help yourself, by researching your damn class before you ruin it for everybody else. It's sad when I once wiped to turn 4 in a PUG for eternity before I finally got fed up with the awful tanks and bad dps and told them skill by skill, how to accomplish turn 4. And we won that same run. Though I shouldn't have had to do that, especially considering everyone there claimed they were "experienced". They did nothing but waste their own, and my time. Don't be one of those people. If someone says you parse low, they're being blunt and honest. So fix that, so it doesn't happen again.

[alhandra]

Tashigi its not up to you who decides if they have fun or not this is the whole point. They pay monthly doesn't matter if they are bad players then help them out or leave the party yourself.

the only time this argument would hold any weight is in the duty finder. if i create a group, ask for experienced players, then get one that isnt experienced and holds the rest of the group back, i am not going to be the one leaving. i will ask them to step it up, if they dont, i will kick them. some people have fun holding hands and singing koombaya while getting their face pummeled by trivial content. personally i have more fun winning, and winning consistently.