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    Ul'dah
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    Cailae Ekisho
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    Excalibur
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
    So video games are comparable to work or school? Not, you know, a way to get away from all of those things. Everyone has to deal with the stuff you listed every day. Why drag that crap and bad attitude into a game? But no, it would be too mature to think that way. As a matter of fact, using your comparison, does a boss who calmly and professionally explains problems and alterations that need to be made achieve more success than those who don't? What about professors who try to help you and take the time to sit down with you to learn as opposed to just saying "loln00bl2quantumphysics" after looking at your scores?

    And come on people, "growing thicker skin"? I thought we were beyond that irrational thinking by now.
    I am pointing out the absurdity of people looking at hard data, finding you lacking, and being called a bully for following through with the next step. We are assuming we are already at the "failed at" point in the relationship. You are also correct in that this is a game. I am not your teacher, I am not your boss, and likely I do not know you on any personal level. Thus you are measured where it is most important. You show up as DPS, you fail to perform DPS, you need to go. This is no different than a Tank that can't hold hate, or a Healer that lets everyone die. Take it for what it is, and improve for next time.

    Quote Originally Posted by L-D-Omlette View Post
    The difference is, for all of those things there is a contract (implicit or explicit) and the person is aware of the forthcoming judgement. That doesn't exist in this game, unless you've explicitly defined the parameters. It is not one players responsibility to determine the performance of another, especially in a pug. I think we can all agree we would rather see the community improve, but there is a right way and a wrong way to go about it. Negative reinforcement doesn't work.

    I agree bullying might be a little over the top in this scenario, but don't think it can't happen in similar situations.
    I guess I am assuming things like party finder. I don't use the Duty finder for... well anything. If I do Duty finder something I know I am rolling the dice on everyone I end up with. In that instance the onus is on me. But I see people all the time lose their minds that they were kicked from a PF party that explicitly says not a learning party when they clearly do not know the fight. Parameters were defined, you did not fall within them. No need to get upset over it.
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    Last edited by Cailae; 03-17-2014 at 11:24 PM.