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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    This just makes it seem like there's one rule for DPS and another for everyone else. When a tank or healer are terrible and not pulling their weight it is immediately obvious and people call them out on it. DPS aren't as noticeable so people use parsers to check damage. So it's ok to call out tanks/healers for being bad but not DPS?
    Or you *gasp* talk to people and give advice instead of accusing them of "pulling their weight" or "trolling". That's the issue. Losses happen all the time. Normally there is not 1 person to blame. Even if there is, it will be pretty obvious regardless of role, but the way you handle it is the issue. Using a 3rd party tool is cheating, it's been that way since FFXI. Instead of relying on these things, learn the jobs yourself so you can tell if the proper buffs/debuffs/rotation are being used, and talk to your members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
    Or you *gasp* talk to people and give advice instead of accusing them of "pulling their weight" or "trolling". That's the issue. Losses happen all the time. Normally there is not 1 person to blame. Even if there is, it will be pretty obvious regardless of role, but the way you handle it is the issue. Using a 3rd party tool is cheating, it's been that way since FFXI. Instead of relying on these things, learn the jobs yourself so you can tell if the proper buffs/debuffs/rotation are being used, and talk to your members.
    99% it's someone dying. That 1% is where parses hang out. It can happen. But there are multiple reason for a really low parse on a phase. Poping all your CDs for the right or wrong phase for example.

    It's no different from healers and tanks. Knowing when to apply vs apply it to everything. Then pushing it by having other members make up for your risks is also part of it.

    Popping blood for blood is a good way to parse higher, but healers hold your life in the palm of their hands if you decide that your rotation is more important then their aoe heal rotations is a sign of more then just bad parsing.

    I have derped in maybe 1/20 titan ex stomps being slightly late in my pre-cast. but when I do, and someone dies, I see that blood for blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
    Instead of relying on these things, learn the jobs yourself so you can tell if the proper buffs/debuffs/rotation are being used, and talk to your members.
    It's kind of hard to read the battle log compared to ffxi and since the game relies on you to be spammy and dodge, it's hard to keep track of what everyone is doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    It's kind of hard to read the battle log compared to ffxi and since the game relies on you to be spammy and dodge, it's hard to keep track of what everyone is doing.
    Most of the damage output is reliant on a proper rotation. There are signs a DPS is faltering based on what buffs they put on/debuffs they put on. Example: MNK losing GL3, DRG not having Heavy Thrust, BRD not keeping up Venomous/Windbite, etc. Obviously this is fairly fight-dependent and difficult to do, but a good leader will be able to keep track of a lot of things at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
    Most of the damage output is reliant on a proper rotation. There are signs a DPS is faltering based on what buffs they put on/debuffs they put on. Example: MNK losing GL3, DRG not having Heavy Thrust, BRD not keeping up Venomous/Windbite, etc. Obviously this is fairly fight-dependent and difficult to do, but a good leader will be able to keep track of a lot of things at once.
    To be fair, it is not easy to catch dps derping a phase as oppose to an whole fight. But it is pretty obvious who it is, considering they will be making other mistakes in conjunction to just not damaging right.

    SE's DPS checks are very very lenient. You can pretty much eyeball who is hitting what to know that a fail dps check means some one is hitting the wrong thing or out right dead.

    Again I have seen parses of all dps going over 200 and the jail is still breaking late. It's impossible unless the epeen is fully active there and everyone is more interested in parsing their titan then doing the content.
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