Parsers

[Delsus]

quoting this:



OP clearly says he haven't got much experience, and admitted it. Doesn't give justice for someone using parser to look down upon OP. Better use parser to give some constructive advice on how to play job better, instead of saying "You suck!".

Perhaps I should have phrased that better, when I say I don't get to play much I mean I don't get to play much now, I will admit I have the experiance, but you have hit the nail on the head about why I am angry about it, I have no problems with constructive criticism, in fact I welcome it, but when people just say "you suck" then yeah they are scum.

[KyroeFelix]

quoting this:



OP clearly says he haven't got much experience, and admitted it. Doesn't give justice for someone using parser to look down upon OP. Better use parser to give some constructive advice on how to play job better, instead of saying "You suck!".

The guy has myth helm and zenith weapon plus pretty much full Darklight. By "not playing much" he just means he hasn't gotten around to moogle, not that he's inexperienced. That's probably why the healer gave him grief.

[Skyhound]

Parsers ARE a bannable offense. If you reported that person, he would have been banned for having third party software running on the game. That guy using the info to harass you is exactly what YoshiP warned us NOT to do with Parsers.

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[Mattlex]

I think after one attempt its pretty harsh to judge anyone on their DPS, there is usually a number of reasons why things go wrong but ultimately it boils down to people looking for someone to blame for the faliure and usually it's not just one person -

Especially Thornmarch ... I assume the OP went as DRG if so chasing after those crazy little moogles as meele DPS can be tricky, you can't just attack any moogle its has to be in a specific order totally mess up even the most experienced DRG rotations especially when they dont stand still. If all other DPS in the party happened to be ranged (i'm speculating) then there would be a noteable difference in DPS because that fight is so much easier for ranged classes.

[Vasher]

The only reason parsing isn't supported officially is because people can't stand be shown how bad they are with actual evidence, and all those adorable excuses mean nothing.

People can't stand to think that perhaps they actually aren't very good at something, and require some practice and effort to improve.

But hey, this is the era of the participation trophies.

[Xayoc]

The only reason parsing isn't supported officially is because people can't stand be shown how bad they are with actual evidence, and all those adorable excuses mean nothing.

People can't stand to think that perhaps they actually aren't very good at something, and require some practice and effort to improve.

But hey, this is the era of the participation trophies.

[Richiealvian]

Eh, I'm all for banning douchebags calling out bad dps. I play this to have fun. Call me bad, sure, but I believe I can pull my weight. I have 2 allagan weapons, might or might not be indication that I am doing at least sufficiently in fights, but I just don't d-bag people. If you d-bag people, you deserve the ban. That's what I personally think about parser, it's not bannable if you're helping yourself but if you use it to belittle people with no constructive criticism, I hope you get banned.

[Delsus]

The only reason parsing isn't supported officially is because people can't stand be shown how bad they are with actual evidence, and all those adorable excuses mean nothing.

People can't stand think that perhaps they actually aren't very good at something, and require some practice and effort to improve.

But hey, this is the era of the participation trophies.

You really haven't read what I have been saying throughout the thread by all means tell me I had low dps, I'll work on improving, and see why my dps is lower in that fight, but just use a similar statement to "You Suck" I'll spite you every time I see you. Now if you say it in a civil manner I'll take it on board and take any advice.

[NyneAlexander]

STOP. JUST. JUST STOP.

If the community, as a whole, actually used parsers intelligently instead of using them to justify some sort of dps pissing contest, then they wouldn't be an offense worthy of the ban-hammer.

Sure, there are plenty of times a DPS is bad and doesn't know their proper situational rotation for whatever fight they're in. But there are also plenty of times that some dumb healer or tank is calling out a DPS that was just targeted for liquid hell 3 times in a row. Or was trapped in multiple conflags, or GAOLs. Or was dead due to some crappy healer paying more attention to a live parse than they were to healing the fight.

Not to mention, parsers aren't always accurate. Or someone says "wow, that drg destroyed you guys. he parsed XXX" when in actuality he used a single target limit break twice.

Parsing is the metric of the elite. But its a bad metric.

[Daenerys_Sedai]

as one person mentioned, they are bannable offenses in that if you are harassing someone about their DPS, and they report you with screenshot evidence, then you could receive some disciplinary action.

I am on the fence about parsers. So many people run them and sometimes they're accurate, sometimes they're woefully inaccurate. I think they have gotten better and it is really the only way aside from DPS walls to know who out of the DPS isn't up to par. I really cringe when I hear that a PLD tank is outparsing a DPS as a tank with SO on.. that just shouldn't happen.