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    I though parsing was against thenrules/bannable/whatever.?

    Ether way...
    Some of you talk about parsing to "weed out the bad players" so basically if a player sucks, you don't want them in your endgame. Ok, so you basically harass them by telling them they suck and kicking them out . Instead of teaching them. They don't learn end game, they get upset/bored/tired of people being Mean to them and quit. That costs SE money, because by parsing, and not keeping to yourself, or teaching how to better people, your driving off customers for their business. Which is why *i* belive they haven't and more than likely won't add or allow anything like that.

    I dont think they should ever allow or add parsing or similar things to the game. Just as the game. If you come across someone bad, especially in DF, oh well. It's bound to happen.

    I'd rather we keep the population of the game up, and help maintain it longer
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    It's simple really, just parse in private, see who are the ones dealing good dps, vote abandon, send a private msg to the good dps or add them to a linkshell. It's the harsh truth, but improving at the game is more individual responsibility than it is of the group.

    Everyone started off new at this game. If you need to have complete strangers teach you how to play instead of figuring it out yourself or doing some research on your own, you'll forever be stuck in the "bad" category. If you can't do better, just make sure you don't qq about how bad other people are. If you're any good, people will notice.
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    There are people below the realm of teaching, and stays in the failing ditch.
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    Any program that is used within the game that isn't part of the game or issued by SE is technically a bannable offence period. No buts, or ifs.
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    Next time report them and I urge anyone else to report if someone is using a program to rate your game play.

    The ones in the thread who use it that are giving you a bad time about it probably are the same type of people who judge others using a parser.

    If more people reported these types they'd stop and think twice before abusing the parser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeroSamson View Post
    Next time report them and I urge anyone else to report if someone is using a program to rate your game play.
    The ones in the thread who use it that are giving you a bad time about it probably are the same type of people who judge others using a parser.
    If more people reported these types they'd stop and think twice before abusing the parser.
    You really think a parser is needed to judge a person's performance?
    Almost anyone who's paying attention can judge a person's performance easily by looking at which spells they use and how much threat they generate (All of which is available in-game).
    A parser simply makes it easier.

    If 7 of your 8 party members are doing well and 1 is holding them back, it makes sense to analyze and see what it is the group and that person are doing wrong and then try to iron out the problems.
    This is common sense and logic. Something almost everyone I see defending the OP here, has conveniently ignored/forgotten.

    Third party mods are currently allowed to be used at your own discretion/for personal purposes and normally should not be used outside of your own personal use but if your group is open to addons and understands these things can more often than not help your group, there is no harm in using them. Even Yoshi himself noted this.

    The problem emerges when someone with a dense mentality, unable and incapable of accepting criticism, is given some form of criticism.
    Thus we have this and several other, similar threads.
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    Last edited by Tashigi; 03-17-2014 at 07:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tashigi View Post
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    The problem emerges when someone with a dense mentality, unable and incapable of accepting criticism, is given some form of criticism.
    Thus we have this and several other, similar threads.
    That's applying to yourself.

    If you're going to do it, then getting caught is getting caught. No mater how you rationalize it, you're in the wrong, so when you're caught, eat it.

    That's how parser club works. If you can't follow the rules, stop making yourself look like a good guy, because clearly you're not, by breaking the rules of parser club.

    No one is telling you to stop using it, use it at your own risk, and your trap shut. <--- This is a very simply rule, why can't people follow it.
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    Last edited by kukurumei; 03-17-2014 at 08:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    That's how parser club works. If you can't follow the rules, stop making yourself look like a good guy, because clearly you're not, by breaking the rules of parser club.

    No one is telling you to stop using it, use it at your own risk, and your trap shut.
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    Except I don't use a parser myself.
    If I did, it's unlikely I'd talk about it here, of all places. But I can still meassure a person's performance with in-game tools, as can you and just about anyone else.
    My point stands, though. The OP's problem is with the person, not the third party tool. Said person could have still insulted/harassed the OP by looking at his positioning/ability pattern/threat generation, etc.
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    Last edited by Tashigi; 03-17-2014 at 08:41 AM.

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    Given the way the mobs are constantly moving about in thornmarch, I'd be a little more understanding of a monk messing up rotation for whatever excuse they give, especially on the first try. There is other information that should have been taken into account as well, such as the level or skill of the other dps in the group. If they were bards or mages, they wouldn't have to worry as much about rotations getting messed up due to movement, etc. so they would have gotten more hits in, which would skew the results of percentages of total damage done.

    tl;dr

    The first try of a single fight isn't nearly enough data to justify losing your cool and insulting someone over. This give credence to the idea that parsers can be used to harass people (misuse by people to blame/call someone out for a loss).
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