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    I don't even find that remotely rude.

    I say things far worst even when everyone is doing great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post

    IF enough of these threads go through they would have to start being active about it and ban everything related to parsing. Good Job for making that one step closer.
    Probably. SE is hellbent on coddling and hand-holding all the players who can't handle anything that isn't bubblegum-flavored sunshine and cotton candy rainbows. God forbid FC's should be able to constructively use parsers within their own raid groups as too many softies might have their little feelings hurt when some socially inept type with a big mouth says something derogatory about their low damage in a random group of strangers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shyluv View Post
    People already get bullied enough over other stupid silly stuff.
    And therein lies the problem. Why do people get so worked up about being 'bullied' over stupid, silly stuff? Where did the ability to shrug off the stupid shit go? Oh, yeah, it ran away screaming from all of this 'self-awareness' crap and all the trophies handed out to the kids who don't even try to win a game because it's supposed to just be fun.
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    Last edited by Araeya; 03-16-2014 at 06:19 AM.

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    So according to most people in this thread, it seems that people doing bad dps is okay.

    Me as a tank it is quite obvious when I am being a bad tank I.E. positioning, not holding aggro, getting dps killed with cleaves, not switching on stacks, etc.

    But it's completely okay for DPS to not meet dps checks in fights I.E. EX Titan Heart and post heart(had a group that could dodge literally everything and not get passed the final enrage), almost all of Twin, Turn 4, Ifrit EX Nails, Garudas Sisters.

    I don't see how this is fair to me or the Healers(which you can really tell when there are bad heals) in fact. I'm going to assume that most of you who say "Oh but were still progressing isnt that okay" have not cleared anything further than HM Ifrit. I'm sorry to say this, but it's not okay to carry people through content so they can later join an instance they are not ready for, wipe the group, have an random "elitest" yell at them. Then they come on the forum and complain the community is "Toxic" while previously they should have been able to parse ATLEAST more than the tank before queing into the instance.

    So this carebare of a community supposodly isnt allowed to bring up the word "Parse" in game because it "offends" people, people seeming to be insecure about thier dps, isnt that the point of being dps? To see big numbers fly accross the board, wouldn't it be great to see BIGGER numbers fly accross the board simply by learning how to do your rotations correctly? So when people do bad dps I should kick them out of the party without explanation and not give them a chance to step up their dps or quickly give them tips or pointers on how their rotations should be laid out? Alright I get it, I'll just randomly kick dps out of my party that dont perform.
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    Last edited by Provoke; 03-16-2014 at 06:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Provoke View Post
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    kicking because they don't play good enough is abuse of the system but ok.

    secondly it's already been stated if you need a parser to notice someone isn't dpsing as good as someone else obviously they are dpsing pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    kicking because they don't play good enough is abuse of the system but ok.

    secondly it's already been stated if you need a parser to notice someone isn't dpsing as good as someone else obviously they are dpsing pretty well.
    Wow, missing the entire point to parsing in general heres an example.

    If you are a bard on Titan Extreme and am doing lower dps then Me as a Tank, THERE IS A PROBLEM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Provoke View Post
    Wow, missing the entire point to parsing in general heres an example.

    If you are a bard on Titan Extreme and am doing lower dps then Me as a Tank, THERE IS A PROBLEM.
    not missing the point at all how would you need a parser to see that? quite clearly you can see they are doing alot wrong. no need for a parser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    not missing the point at all how would you need a parser to see that? quite clearly you can see they are doing alot wrong. no need for a parser.
    As a healer and tank doing hard content, I find it hard to focus on what the dds are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    not missing the point at all how would you need a parser to see that? quite clearly you can see they are doing alot wrong. no need for a parser.
    Rather than looking at numbers on the side of my screen I should stare at another players character and see which attacks they are using and when, during the whole fight, hmm, no.
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    Last edited by Provoke; 03-16-2014 at 12:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    kicking because they don't play good enough is abuse of the system but ok.
    How is that abuse of the system, if say a single person is holding back an entire party from progressing it seems very fair to remove the weak link be it healer, dps, or tank. I can't even count how many times a player from each role has needed to be removed although every time they are asked nicely to leave and 9 time out of 10 we finish after the replacement so I don't see how in any way that is abuse. After many tries and same person making same mistakes it's time for them to pack up and leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanemakikaze View Post
    How is that abuse of the system, if say a single person is holding back an entire party from progressing it seems very fair to remove the weak link be it healer, dps, or tank. I can't even count how many times a player from each role has needed to be removed although every time they are asked nicely to leave and 9 time out of 10 we finish after the replacement so I don't see how in any way that is abuse. After many tries and same person making same mistakes it's time for them to pack up and leave.
    If someone is low on dps, especially in df and progression static group, u should find out whats the cause of low dps and fix it, not kick the player. I hope u get a ban asap, because from what ur saying u must have kicked many innocent players.
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