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    Nicodareus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Lancers have access to a fair number of tank level def=mdef armors. In fact you can level from 23 to 50 exclusively in crafted def=mdef armors, starting with Iron Scale Mail (23), Steel Scale Mail (32), Horn Scale Mail (38), Tortoiseshell Scale Mail (46) and finally Mosshorn Scale Mail (47, ilevel 50).
    As mine is only 34 hadn't noticed but stand corrected.
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    Looks cool but I would use Sharingan instead of Byakugan because the Byakugan lets you see through things and stuff but the Sharingan is what helps you track and counter and read your opponents moves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    Looks cool but I would use Sharingan instead of Byakugan because the Byakugan lets you see through things and stuff but the Sharingan is what helps you track and counter and read your opponents moves.
    Maybe I'm remembering wrong was going forHyuga perfect / 360 defense skill not vision skill per say lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodareus View Post
    Maybe I'm remembering wrong was going forHyuga perfect / 360 defense skill not vision skill per say lol
    The perfect defense however had nothing to do with the Byakugan but with the ability to release chakra from the body. His perfect defense was simply him spinning rabidly in a spot and making a shield out of chakura it had nothing to do with parrying or countering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    The perfect defense however had nothing to do with the Byakugan but with the ability to release chakra from the body. His perfect defense was simply him spinning rabidly in a spot and making a shield out of chakura it had nothing to do with parrying or countering.
    Its an ability that cannot be used without the use of the byakugan, which is what I think was the point. Also 360 defense was more than the chakra shield, he could see in 360 degrees around his body and defend himself from almost all attacks. Rotation just created 0% fail rate in the defense at that specified point.


    That being said, Sight beyond Sight and Byakugan should really be renamed. I can't take the thread seriously with a Thunder Cat and Naruto reference as main abilities.

    In terms of increasing support/ideas, A sort of high eminty "Revenge" attack. I'm waiting to see some kinda revenge attack used by some class eventually. This is based off the skill from FFT Shock!/Vengence, Deals heavy damage based on Damage recieved after x amount of time. Like some kinda counter appears when used and when the counter hits 0, it releases the built up Damage. Think Bide from Pokemon.

    Some kinda heavy guard, a version of Shield Oath but raises parry chance if we want to go that route for Tank scheme.


    I dunno, I really want to see some kind of revenge kill Tank and think Templar could be a good example. Can't really piece the picture together on my own though.
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    I'd really like a mitigation/party buff/enemy debuff tank. Or maybe I just really want to see support classes make a return ha ha.
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    Umm I'll get back to you on most of that when I'm on PC not mobile haha.

    But yes to one thing. I agree as a lancer/polearm it is traditionally not considered and in practical use not something generally spoken of as far as parry in what little experience knowledge I have of wielding weapons. Only reason I suggested this style of tank on lancer is keen flurry and its trait. Honestly IMO a riposte tank would work better as a sword user even possibly monk offshoot. But just dealing with the skills that the devs assigned to classes.

    Again I will address the majority of your post when its easier but thank you for giving me some stuff to chew on in meantime.

    Also been a while since played tactics but if I recall geomancer was a 2hand axe... so switching it to lance strictly because marauder already has tank and as you mentioned Gridania would be a good place for a geomancer type job. Something can look into changing it to as well. But again I'll comment more later.
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    Last edited by Nicodareus; 03-14-2014 at 08:01 AM.

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    I wish PLD had a passive 'Cure' buff. As it stands, 'Stoneskin' is useful, but 'Cure' by a PLD is about the most inefficient use of MP in the game.
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