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    Why have that if for mstly all the drop the party can agree who will need/greed/pass. I found it preaty useless to implement a master loot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    Why have that if for mstly all the drop the party can agree who will need/greed/pass. I found it preaty useless to implement a master loot
    because its easy for a player to say they will pass but then greed or need and screw someone over.
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    Need/Greed is fine, there isn't a problem to fix so ML isn't required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KraggyKor View Post
    Need/Greed is fine, there isn't a problem to fix so ML isn't required.
    Exception being the Striking/Maiming fiasco we have going on in Coil right now where both Monks and Dragoons want Striking accessories but only Monks can roll Need on them. It's fairly difficult to get everyone in your party to pass on something when more than one person just greeds everything like normal.

    Or if you're doing a method that requires the OT switch to an off-spec role like T2 enrage or one tank Twintania, and Tank loot drops. Or any player switching to a role they don't usually play save for one specific encounter.

    Master loot is helpful as an option for pre-made groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    because its easy for a player to say they will pass but then greed or need and screw someone over.
    It's also easy for someone to screw you over and give the drop that had been agreed upon to a different person.

    Then there's the duty finder PUGs, where people are from different servers. After waiting 10-30 minutes to get into the dungeon, you find that some random stranger says who gets what, and 5/8 members are in his FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    It's also easy for someone to screw you over and give the drop that had been agreed upon to a different person.

    Then there's the duty finder PUGs, where people are from different servers. After waiting 10-30 minutes to get into the dungeon, you find that some random stranger says who gets what, and 5/8 members are in his FC.
    oh trust me i believe noone should have right to loot that is why we have need greed pass. if you can need it that's your right. if you can greed it thats your right. if someone needs and you greed they had all right.

    just i was merely stating why a player would want it. alot of players do feel they have right to loot and will make parties and claim loot too them.
    while this thread might not entirely mean random pf groups and mean fc static coil groups or primal groups. it's how players feel, and it comes down to how se feels about it not me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    because its easy for a player to say they will pass but then greed or need and screw someone over.
    It's even easier for the Loot Master to say they're going to give someone a specific item and then screw them over.

    If people aren't trustworthy, no system is going to fix that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    Why have that if for mstly all the drop the party can agree who will need/greed/pass. I found it preaty useless to implement a master loot
    So that guilds can use DKP systems during raiding.

    Because in some guilds, loot is serious business and there needs to be someone in charge or all hell will break loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by therpgfanatic View Post
    So that guilds can use DKP systems during raiding.

    Because in some guilds, loot is serious business and there needs to be someone in charge or all hell will break loose.
    You can talk to your members and all agree to use a DKP system. Is talking really that hard?

    In my group we use a main/sub to distrubute loot. We all agree to always greed because some ppl main doesn't necesary play it in some runs. We keep everyone assistance and how the loot is droping and we dont have any problem at all. No master loot, no people ninja looting stuff, we a happy family and we take loot seriously.
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    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.