Master Loot System

[MeiUshu]

so you will have leaders that will use that function during a fight so that people will click fast as to remove the little box and click without really looking so that Leader gets all the rights and can do anything he wants....see my point....extreme ? NOT....Master loot is a bad bad bad bad bad bad bad idea...

Mei

[CYoung187]

This "issue" is completely overblown. Statics don't have this problem as they can easily pre-determine who gets what. 95% of the "I got ninja'ed" claims come from someone whining about losing some loot they never had a right to in the first place. This would get abused way too much. Need/greed isn't abused, either it is your class or it isn't. I always love that guy who doesn't get the roll for his job, then after the fight is over "Hey, I play that class too, plz greed"

The system isn't broke, high level groups can already implement this. If you can't trust the whole group, what makes you so sure you can trust the "leader"?

[Clavaat]

Wow, necro-thread.

Anyway, having more options for loot systems is a good thing, as long as there is a vote for change, similar to a vote for kicking a member from an instance. This can still cause tension, but it would mostly be used by pre-mades anyway.

Actually, all I really want 100% is to be able to Pass after you Need/Greed. There's no reason not to be able to; you should not be locked into that. Mistakes happen, misclicks, misunderstood rule, etc. You try to prevent them as best as you can, but shit happens. Being able to pass after a lot should be an option.

I see nothing but problems with this.

As the only option, yes.

Being able to toggle, no. 1 person in charge can cause less room for error. Again, only as a choice unanimous with the PT would it be OK.

[Traek]

Yes please! I'll support any Master loot thread I see... It needs to be implemented.

Make it an option light/full parties formed on their own.

[Kayo]

Some of you are so freaking paranoid, lol

"No, master looter is a horrible idea because when the planets align and there is a solar eclipse, I may get into a pre-made that'll try and set their friend as master looter to keep everything."

A) Like I said before, no one is saying to make that the only loot rule in the game, or even the default.
B) Ahole premades will be ahole premades, you should feel lucky to have the red flag pop up early in the run rather than be vote kicked right before the chest is looted. Most guild runs who pick up a few random players to fill a raid dont master loot anyway for obvious reasons, and those that do make it clear before even inviting.
C) I know SE has a knack for implementing features and ignorantly leaving loopholes open for abuse but those can be fixed and usually are grounds for reporting such abuse. Regardless, SE's temporary incompetence isnt a good reason to not add features available in many other MMOs without breaking those games. Specially alternate loot rules like master looter, round robin, FFA, etc.

[MageBlack]

This would be something nice to see. It would be good for FC's that use things like the DKP system for distributing loot to their players as reqards for participation and not just a reward cause you picked that class to use. All they would need is to have it implemented as a system that is only avaliable to use when you are in a fully premade party. Getting in a Pug where the leader changes it to master loot would lead to lots of issues.

[Xystic]

I'm not much for master loot.

It doesn't matter if you can toggle master loot on or off. The master loot system isn't the one that screws you over, its the person who can toggle it on and off.

[SendohJin]

If you only have one job, that is your choice. Tell me why should I be penalized for it and not playing the job I want and that I have to switch?

it's not a penalty if the system supports it.

my SCH and BRD are both i100+ both have i110 necklaces. i would like to get a Mog necklace for my BLM, why do you want to gimp the party and make me come on BLM? why do you want the party to do less DPS, why do you want to invite a random healer that can't Esuna/Leech properly?

why would you not support a system that lets us win 6/6 and get 6 drops and instead prefer going 4/4 with slower fights or go 3/8 and get less items?

It doesn't matter if you can toggle master loot on or off. The master loot system isn't the one that screws you over, its the person who can toggle it on and off.

it's an odds game, trust 1 person vs trusting 7.

[KingOfAbyss]

it's not a penalty if the system supports it.

my SCH and BRD are both i100+ both have i110 necklaces. i would like to get a Mog necklace for my BLM, why do you want to gimp the party and make me come on BLM? why do you want the party to do less DPS, why do you want to invite a random healer that can't Esuna/Leech properly?

why would you not support a system that lets us win 6/6 and get 6 drops and instead prefer going 4/4 with slower fights or go 3/8 and get less items?



it's an odds game, trust 1 person vs trusting 7.

Exactly this. I trust myself, a Few FC mates. And I'm all in for slower fights, as I hate Speed runs.

Your point of gimping is true to that extent though. That's why I'll say it again: if you get into one instance with everyone that you know, then agree on loot, no point for the masterloot system, cause everyone will play 'fair'.

So you want that loot for BLM? Sure, if I'm with you and all agree, it's yours to take if it drops ^^

As OP mentionned, if it's something like an option and SE agrees, all good.

So far, with issues already in the game, I see no point bringing another system that might confuse some people even after reading it and still rage/report/make trouble.

Everyone knows you have to dodge at Titan. Everyone knows the rules.. yet..

Everyone knows you can't use 3rd app, buying Gil or bot system.. yet.. (you can trust Humans to play fair lol)

Giving power to one human behind a keyboard, unless all agree, and he goes into a powertrip, like a Judge in real life that had a bad day cause his wife didn't give him what he wanted.. I wish you won't be judged at his court on the same day

This is a system with the potential to be abused like crazy, and I've seen it abused like crazy many times before. Things are fine the way they are, and a heck of a lot better than they could be if they implemented something like this. No changes are needed or necessary. Seriously man, you have no idea the sheer amount of whining and drama you would unleash upon Eorzea if this change were to be made to the game. Take it from someone who has run endgaming guilds in other games. Things are far better off the way they are.

With many years of gaming, I'm in the same boat, so thank you.

[Clavaat]

I'm not much for master loot.

It doesn't matter if you can toggle master loot on or off. The master loot system isn't the one that screws you over, its the person who can toggle it on and off.

Right, so leave it up to the group to vote (I mean actually vote, like kicking a member, not "I say yes").