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    First of all, I didn't dismiss anyone or anything. I also don't need statistics to back up a subjective opinion or impression. I am not stating a fact and never said I was.

    If you can't notice different attitudes from different cultures and areas, then that is being ignorant. I was mainly stating that I noticed a different attitude. I know I am not the only one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    First of all, I didn't dismiss anyone or anything. I also don't need statistics to back up a subjective opinion or impression. I am not stating a fact and never said I was.

    If you can't notice different attitudes from different cultures and areas, then that is being ignorant. I was mainly stating that I noticed a different attitude. I know I am not the only one.
    I have to disagree still. I would say it's more ignorant to try and classify an entire area into one culture or attitude rather than recognizing your experiences are yours alone, and people you interact with don't necessarily represent all of any group they may be a part of. Historically, lots of hate has actually been born out of such generalizations.

    I say you're dismissing because you answered someone's negative experience with an excuse (they didn't join a LS/FC, placing blame on them and not the community, which is a tactic many use to invalidate someone else's experience and try to prove a point). Which is a way of dismissing it because it doesn't fit your own. The whole no facts thing may not have been at you specifically (I probably confused you with Synapse looking back, actually).. but I did mean it towards any folks that make the definitive statement of "FFXI's community was better because I personally didn't experience any, or experienced very little, negative".. that's a definitive statement, not an opinion, and it's backed by anecdotal evidence, which isn't really evidence at all, regardless of how many of your friends agree with you. If you didn't make such a statement, then I'm sorry that bit was aimed at you incorrectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunarie View Post

    I say you're dismissing because you answered someone's negative experience with an excuse (they didn't join a LS/FC, placing blame on them and not the community, which is a tactic many use to invalidate someone else's experience and try to prove a point).
    Hahaha! I only answered THAT person that way because in the two years I played 1.0, that person was one of three people on my blacklist and I am familiar with that person. ;p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    Hahaha! I only answered THAT person that way because in the two years I played 1.0, that person was one of three people on my blacklist and I am familiar with that person. ;p
    Haha, goes to show generalizations are bad :P In my experience, people have been doing that without knowing the person they were saying it at (including them saying it at me). So I just made assumptions based on that. Apologies for giving you such a hard time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunarie View Post
    Haha, goes to show generalizations are bad :P In my experience, people have been doing that without knowing the person they were saying it at (including them saying it at me). So I just made assumptions based on that. Apologies for giving you such a hard time.
    No apology necessary, but thanks.

    And I don't believe generalizations or judgments are "bad.". People need to make judgments in life every day, usually based on generalizations. Some people's lives depend on it. Obviously it's not that serious in games.
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