Titan HM needs a change for those who can't devote all their time to this game.

[krazyrs]

reflexes are a lot slower since client/char update patch
go back and do titan hm in 2.0 when u had to pre-dodge everything
got my first 4-5 relics then

[Fynlar]

People who keep remarking how tanks have "nothing" to do in Titan HM either must be some pretty bad tanks, haven't actually tanked it, or have not experienced what most groups are like.

You still have to know the patterns just like everyone else should, even if you aren't dodging as many things, so that you know the best times to use your cooldowns, or you will get wrecked by MBs.

You have to know how/when to either dodge bombs or pop a CD and eat one, particularly post-heart when dodging bombs you shouldn't be will either end up with you taking two bombs or getting your group hit with RB.

Weight of the Land never pops under the tank? Yeah, if you try joining enough groups for this, I guarantee you eventually you'll get one that has 3 or more people dead post-heart, at which point you will have to start dodging those too.

Sure, maybe it's easier overall for them compared to other fights, but to say it's effortless for a tank just paints you as an inexperienced or bad tank tbh :<

[krazyrs]

You still have to know the patterns just like everyone else should, even if you aren't dodging as many things, so that you know the best times to use your cooldowns, or you will get wrecked by MBs.
You have to know how/when to either dodge bombs or pop a CD and eat one, particularly post-heart when dodging bombs you shouldn't be will either end up with you taking two bombs or getting your group hit with RB.
Weight of the Land never pops under the tank? Yeah, if you try joining enough groups for this, I guarantee you eventually you'll get one that has 3 or more people dead post-heart, at which point you will have to start dodging those too.
Sure, maybe it's easier overall for them compared to other fights, but to say it's effortless for a tank just paints you as an inexperienced or bad tank tbh :<

post heart, about 70% of the time, u get into the sweetspot and never have to move, watch for landslide and hit your cd to eat rock buster/mb. The other 30% u may have too many dead and have to dodge/eat a wol but its still effortless.

[illuminapanic]

post heart, about 70% of the time, u get into the sweetspot and never have to move, watch for landslide and hit your cd to eat rock buster/mb. The other 30% u may have too many dead and have to dodge/eat a wol but its still effortless.

I think he was saying that it's not as derpaderp as you say it is for a tank. For a new tank, you don't know of any "sweet spots" to just sit there and cd for mb. New tanks have to learn when to use cd's to eat bombs and also have them up for eating mb's. They also have to dodge wotl if some people are dead. Good/great tanks would also find ways to dodge the bombs without getting the party clipped by rock buster and then moving back to position while keeping aggro rotation and remembering when mb is coming to pop a cd.

[Alistaire]

Or maybe he doesn't find what you describe to make it count as "hard on the tank"?

Has it been brought up that you can easily find groups that will merc it in the range of 100-200k? Sure that's not ideal but it's not the end of the world. I got my first relic when I had really odd hours and ended up doing this just because getting a good df group (pre-party finder) was turning out to be more effort than just mercing it. I did pay more than 200k but let's just say I paid about the value of 1 2-star item as it was going for at the time. I actually merc'd it after it unexpectedly sold really fast and just said hell with it, wasn't expecting that gil, don't need that gil, let's do this.

[Fynlar]

After you get through HM titan a few times you'll realize it's not that bad.

Even before I got through Titan HM I didn't think the fight was that bad.

The quality of the other players you tend to get in this fight though? Hell no, that was bad before and I still think it's bad now.

[Alistaire]

Yeah even doing Garuda HM in df is often a nightmare. df is just a cesspool for anything past ifrit hm (and sometimes even that!)

[ImDingDing]

Relic is not a part of the main story. Back in 1.0 less than 5% of the player pool was able to get their relic before 2.0, why is this a problem?

[Alistaire]

I know when I lag, and I know when my brain lags. And I know I was fairly bad @ Titan before using my free month with WTFast. And I know I was much better during that month.

I can tell the difference between dodging and thinking "oh that probably wasn't fast enough" vs times it should be fast enough.

It wasn't till after that free month of WTFast and doing Titan again without it and having several instances of thinking "oh good, was fast enough to dodge that", then finding out the game disagreed, that I knew for sure my latency is a bit bad for those fights.

[Empressia]

the amount of insane entitlement and instant gratification from the OP is soooooooooooo clear, that or he dun have friends or fc to carry him