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    Kitru Kitera
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayerEx View Post
    Good point, designing such a job based on the current system alone would most likely end up with an unbalanced broken job. New stats would definitely open up some possibilities.
    There's no reason it would be any more broken than anything else (which I've been saying and mathematically proving all along). As to creating an entirely new stat, it's redundant given that parry rating would benefit it in the exact same way as the other tanks, and it's not like either of the other tanks needed a secondary stat implemented for their given stance driven mitigation mechanism. If anything, a straight up evasion stat would actually make an evasion tank spikier and less playable because you're increasing reliance upon the spikiest mitigation mechanism there is, which is the exact problem that other games have made in implementing their evasion tanks.
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    I believe that's called Ninja.
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    Player Ex
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImDingDing View Post
    I believe that's called Ninja.
    Just a disclaimer, I am not attempting to revive the Ninja class from whatever game it was, i did not even have knowledge of its existence before making this thread. I simply believe that with the right adjustments a PGL tank would be manageable and add a new tanking job to the game.

    I just attempted running Ifrit with a low level PGL and ended up trying to tank it. Even with no real tank abilities it was not half bad, granted we had a terrific healer and I was using Foresight. Fists of Earth is already a blanket 10% damage reduction, building on dodge and Fists of Earth would be more than enough to allow PGL to be a real tank, and by adding an actual job at level 30 a true tank could be born from altered form bonuses.
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    Last edited by PlayerEx; 03-18-2014 at 05:27 AM.

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    Porkchop Sandwiches
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    Welp, I don't know about all that technical stuff, but I do know that I love tanking and I love punching stuff (Snow is mai husbando <3) so combining the two would be badass. I always thought dual bucklers or a double shield type fist weapon would be awesome too.
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    Axe Erudite
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Not sure if any of you have heard of a game called, World of Warcraft, but that game employs an evasion based tank. They call it a Brew Master Monk. Not only does this tank have high evasion, but also has increased hp. Brew is able to increase their evasion by spending stacks, similar to Wrath or WAR. This tank is able to not only evade attacks, but also able to cause enemy's attacks to miss. Brew has an ability that is on a 30 sec CD, called Guard. Guard is an absorb shield, that absorbs attacks for an amount based on % of total hp.

    Evasion based tanks can, and do work. What every one needs to understand though, is that evasion is *not* their only mitigation mechanic.

    In addition, they have stagger. A mechanic the allows them to take 80% of the unmitigated damage initially, and spread the remaining 20% over time. Basically a 20% DR. This 20% can also be completely nullified, purifying brew.

    Brew master is also a hero in DoTA, and with the proper gear, is a very durable tank.
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    Last edited by Hulk_Smash; 03-25-2014 at 11:06 PM.

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