Why is Crafting still in the game?

[TrystWildkey]

Sometimes I find it a little silly that people want the best gear, and yet they have no desire to do end game content for it.

I mean, end game gear are usually there to be efficient on getting end game contents done easier. Unless you want it for vanity purpose, but there's other way to go about that.

Like many have said, crafted gear serve more as stepping stone. People make it sound like it's so easy to even get the piece you want in coil. Let's not forget, there's always a cap in end game gear.

Heck, I still use some of the penta-melded crafted accessories, because I dislike some of the end-game ones or I just can never get the ones I need.

I do admit that the crafting needs more addition, but it's not as "useless" as people claim.

I don't necessarily want crafted gear equal to Allagan gear. I've said previously that gear dropped from the high end dungeons has every right to be a bit better than crafted.

What I find particularly irksome about high-end crafted gear, is that its requirements are exactly the same as for darklight. So, even if I wanted to use crafted gear for that mid-level area of i70, I'd STILL be required to get the same amount of tomestones as I would for darklight. Which means the same amount of dungeon grinding. In addition to the dungeon grinding, I'd have to gather/craft the rest of the materials for the i70 crafted gear.

That just doesn't make sense to me.

[Taruranto]

Sometimes I find it a little silly that people want the best gear, and yet they have no desire to do end game content for it.

But you can get the best gears without doing zero end game content. Just run HM dungeons (the very same dungeon you run to buy stuff for crafted items!) over and over, get myth and buy equip from vendor. With some jobs they are better than most coil/ct stuff. In fact, it's probably harder and time-expensive to penta-meld some stuff (getting the right material, the gil, the materia) than simply buying iLevel 90 equipment.


Super-hardcore.

[RegnumMagik]

But you can get the best gears without doing zero end game content. Just run HM dungeons (the very same dungeon you run to buy stuff for crafted items!) over and over, get myth and buy equip from vendor. With some jobs they are better than most coil/ct stuff. In fact, it's probably harder and time-expensive to penta-meld some stuff (getting the right material, the gil, the materia) than simply buying iLevel 90 equipment.


Super-hardcore.

It's gonna take a month+ to grind for the "best" gear due to lock out. And some pieces such as accessories for certain classes are completely crap.
At that point, there's 3 opitions: Pray to RNG god in coils, waste your weekly tomestone on a piece of crap that you can potentially use on an alt, or craft a piece that can substitute with better secondary stats.

I don't necessarily want crafted gear equal to Allagan gear. I've said previously that gear dropped from the high end dungeons has every right to be a bit better than crafted.

What I find particularly irksome about high-end crafted gear, is that its requirements are exactly the same as for darklight. So, even if I wanted to use crafted gear for that mid-level area of i70, I'd STILL be required to get the same amount of tomestones as I would for darklight. Which means the same amount of dungeon grinding. In addition to the dungeon grinding, I'd have to gather/craft the rest of the materials for the i70 crafted gear.

That just doesn't make sense to me.

For a person that enjoys min-maxing, I like squeeze out every bit I can get. And like I said, some pieces with correct meld can be potentially better.

Is the amount of tomes required to craft a piece justified? Maybe not, but that doesn't mean it's not worth the extra.

[Miska]

I made several million selling mega potions. Many people buy these. If you care about maxing your dps you buy these it is like having an extra cooldown. Hardcore players buy these and they sell fairly fast.

My top selling crafting items are, food, mega potions, 2 star rings, and base relic weapons a few months ago.

Killing a boss 4 seconds faster is not even close to being useful. I can sell Mega-Potions of strength for 1k a piece, and it costs me nearly 4k to make 3. So I sell 3 for 3k, I lose 1k. All other potions sell for less than 300gil a piece and cost me 400+ to make. Why should I make potions when I lose money?

Now let me do some math, using Shards.

Shards cost 10gil a piece, you need 5 lightning, 6 water. At 10gil that is 50+60=110 just for the shards. Now say you need Pudding Flesh, for another 150gil. That is 260 gil, and that potion sells for 50 a piece. How do I make money? I farm all my own materials to negate that, but then, repair costs. Time to farm. I can farm shards like no tomorrow. Give me anything I can gather from nodes and I can farm like no tomorrow. Fishing, tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo BORING! I hate fishing. I can't even stand to go fishing with my friends, unless they offer me a lot of scotch. Then I can stand to go fishing with them. And I want to emphasize that you said "a few months ago" oh a few months ago I was making a lot of gil, once 2.1 hit, potions I was able to sell at a good price are now laughable in how much I can make off of them. Again the best selling is Mega-Potion of Strength, but for 1k a piece and the cost is near 4k to make 3, its a lose-lose for me. And yes I am talking HQ prices. I can craft any mega potion into an HQ without any HQ materials. But the prices of all the mats I would need are too high for my pocket book. Especially if I can't even break even.

[Zumi]

Killing a boss 4 seconds faster is not even close to being useful. I can sell Mega-Potions of strength for 1k a piece, and it costs me nearly 4k to make 3. So I sell 3 for 3k, I lose 1k. All other potions sell for less than 300gil a piece and cost me 400+ to make. Why should I make potions when I lose money?

Last time I made them it cost 800 gil to make 3. Made my own shark oils these are stupidly expensive if you dont make your own. They have a 100% hq rate they sold for 1000 each. I was making 2200 gil a synth profit.

You aren't hard core enough if you don't want to preform at max dps, I sell these potions pretty well.

[Miska]

Last time I made them it cost 800 gil to make 3. Made my own shark oils these are stupidly expensive if you dont make your own. They have a 100% hq rate they sold for 1000 each. I was making 2200 gil a synth profit.

You aren't hard core enough if you don't want to preform at max dps, I sell these potions pretty well.

Server differences. Silver Sharks cost near 2k a piece at NQ, Hammerhead Sharks are near 1k a piece, that makes 1 Shark Oil. Plus the Shards to make them is another 50 gil a piece to make 1 Shark Oil. 3,050 Gil just for the Shark Oil. Now we need Sagolii Sage, easily enough to farm, and costs about 10 Gil, plus the 5 water and 6 lightning you need is another 110 gil, so in total to make 3 Mega-Potions of Strength is 3,170 gil. Now I can put them up for 1,000 gil a piece. So that is 3,000 before I lose 5% to the Market Tax. So I am making 2,850 Gil off of 3 Mega-Potion of Strength it just costed me 3,170 gil to make. That is a loss of 320 gil.

[Zplinter]

Last time I made them it cost 800 gil to make 3. Made my own shark oils these are stupidly expensive if you dont make your own. They have a 100% hq rate they sold for 1000 each. I was making 2200 gil a synth profit.

You aren't hard core enough if you don't want to preform at max dps, I sell these potions pretty well.

different server = different market factors

[Felis]

Last time I made them it cost 800 gil to make 3. Made my own shark oils these are stupidly expensive if you dont make your own. They have a 100% hq rate they sold for 1000 each. I was making 2200 gil a synth profit.

You aren't hard core enough if you don't want to preform at max dps, I sell these potions pretty well.

The only expensive about the shark oil are the silver sharks. It take time to catch them (you need first to catch a HQ living bait before you can catch a silver shark with it). More time if you don't have a fisher ready.
The hammerhead sharks are easy to catch at the silver bazaar.

[MurakumoMillennium]

So, I pose the question: Why do the crafting professions still exist?

I see on the lodestone you are wear full HQ crafted gear. Please remove all gear and vendor it as the professions that make that gear are useless. If crafting professions no should exist, then gear you are wear should no exist.

[TrystWildkey]

I see on the lodestone you are wear full HQ crafted gear. Please remove all gear and vendor it as the professions that make that gear are useless. If crafting professions no should exist, then gear you are wear should no exist.

I have crafted gear for my other jobs. And it is useful up to a point, but, they throw SO MUCH GEAR at you through the game, and you level SO QUICKLY, that crafted gear for alts isn't as useful as some might think.

I prefer to not have to dungeon grind for my gear. Which is why I leveled all crafts. Then, I found out that even if I wanted to craft my high level gear, I would be required to run dungeons to get tomestones. And if I'm running dungeons, I might as well just get darklight. Which is what led me to my current frustration

I recently gained a few levels on blm, which is why I'm back to hq crafted gear. If you check back after my next gaming session, you'll see that I'll be wearing a mix of crafted gear and gear that I'm getting from levequests. I don't NEED to be wearing the crafted gear, I'm wearing it just because I can.