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  1. #121
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    EasymodeX's Avatar
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    DPS on a dummy? Remember you don't get the group Int buff while solo, and if you're not using food that's another minor delta. There's also the potential factor of Selene buffs and Bard song. End of the day your DPS in a group would be somewhat higher than on a dummy.
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  2. #122
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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Peanut Little
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    SMN/DoT damage on parse is inaccurate, test this on a dummy yourself; watch the number that pops up on your screen and the one that pops up on the parse, they are completely different, they don't even tick at the same time. Also, whenever the boss becomes untargetable/invulnerable, the parse will often still continue to add DoT damage. Though I have not experience it myself, some people claim the parse is still counting other player's DoTs as the SMN. SMN parse also tend to be inconsistent depending on who is parsing; compare your parse with that of a friend in the same fight, you will find times where they really don't agree with each other. Sometimes, my SMN parse a ridiculous amount of DPS that I KNOW ain't right. On the other hand, sometimes the parse won't DoTs at all. I have not encounter a parser that's accurate with DoTs, none.

    Also, unless everyone is using the same parse, comparison is useless.
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  3. #123
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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Peanut Little
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    T1: MNK. A good SMN can compete or even beat MNK if he's DoT both. DRG comes real close to MNK. And no, a BRD should NEVER beat an equally geared MNK or DRG who plays correctly, even if he's DoT both.

    T2: Enraged = MNK. Normal = MNK ideally but T2 is hell for melee.

    T4: BLM on AoE and total damage. MNK on single target and 2nd overall if he knows how to manage his TP for some AoE. Bane only affects 3 targets; if there are a lot of targets, SMN can't even beat MNK, DRG, and even BRD in AoE if those jobs are going all out, so no freaking way they gonna beat BLM. If you lose to a SMN on this turn as BLM, I'm sorry but you fail HARD.

    T5: MNK or SMN. Ideally MNK but SMN have a MUCH easier time this turn. However, SMN is perhaps the hardest job to master so you have to know your SMN.

    Finally, its TOTAL damage that matters the most.. Fortunately, 99% of time, total damage and overall dps correspond, assuming you set it so that you lose DPS if you stop doing damage, such as being dead.
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  4. #124
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    EvilParadox's Avatar
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    Evil Paradox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    SMN: 300+ in T5 whole fight
    Mnk/DRG: 300 + / -
    Brd: 280+
    Blm: Less than above
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  5. #125
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Monk but obviously you can't take a bunch of them.
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  6. #126
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    Airwolfe's Avatar
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    Airwolfe Aodh'cian
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    You are talking about "Number of seconds to wait after the last combat action to begin a new encounter" option?

    I have it set to 12 seconds.
    On twin, in order to log the full duration, that setting needs to be 20-25 sec.
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  7. #127
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    Airwolfe Aodh'cian
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Bards are severely under represented on this thread. Seems like almost everyone thinks bards are pretty much the bottom of the barrel in DPS potential.
    I'll attempt to remedy that with my records now that 2.1 is over. There was no cheesing or deliberate attempt on the raids part to pad my numbers, etc.
    I do not have an allagan bow, so bards are capable of doing at least 15 dps higher than my records.

    T1: 336, taken on 3-10
    http://i.imgur.com/BomtLcJ.jpg

    T4: 336, taken on 3-25
    http://i.imgur.com/15T5cXM.jpg

    T5: 297, taken on 3-25 (this was a 7 man carry run with 1 tank, +10 dps over my prior record with a standard comp - I theorize the record was broken by so much due to added time on debuffed asclepius, it was one pull but my combat time out wasn't set right, thus 'All' is selected, no splicing. Duration on mine is longer than others so maybe the parse should be higher than it is?).
    http://i.imgur.com/LE1Jw5g.jpg
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  8. #128
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    Yotsu's Avatar
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    Natsuki Shinohara
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 93
    T1: MNK ~ 360
    T2: MNK ~ 320
    T4: DRG ~ 320
    T5: MNK ~ 300
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  9. #129
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Airwolfe View Post
    Bards are severely under represented on this thread. Seems like almost everyone thinks bards are pretty much the bottom of the barrel in DPS potential.
    I'll attempt to remedy that with my records now that 2.1 is over. There was no cheesing or deliberate attempt on the raids part to pad my numbers, etc.
    I do not have an allagan bow, so bards are capable of doing at least 15 dps higher than my records.

    T1: 336, taken on 3-10
    http://i.imgur.com/BomtLcJ.jpg

    T4: 336, taken on 3-25
    http://i.imgur.com/15T5cXM.jpg

    T5: 297, taken on 3-25 (this was a 7 man carry run with 1 tank, +10 dps over my prior record with a standard comp - I theorize the record was broken by so much due to added time on debuffed asclepius, it was one pull but my combat time out wasn't set right, thus 'All' is selected, no splicing. Duration on mine is longer than others so maybe the parse should be higher than it is?).
    http://i.imgur.com/LE1Jw5g.jpg
    Are you suggesting those numbers are particularly high? Sorry to say, but all those numbers get trounced by MNK/SMN/DRG T1-5, and BLM trounces that T4 and T5. I've personally scored 320 as BLM in T5 and there's always room for improvement.

    BRD is not a bad DPS by any means. However, in tank and spank fights like BC, where training dummy DPS gets to come out, or multi-DoTs, or AoE, they're not going to win in any turn. It's in content like dungeons and primals, with lots of dodging and phase changes/resets, where BRD can nigh top the charts with 280+ without DRG, while everyone else gets hurt ranging from a little to very much so.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 03-26-2014 at 01:14 PM.

  10. #130
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    EasymodeX's Avatar
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I thought Bards could hit 350-360 on Cad because of the multi-dotting.
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