Top DPS in you t5 clearing groups?

[Sab]

What Classes do you see doing TOP DPS on all fights?

[NeoAmon]

What Classes do you see doing TOP DPS on all fights?

No job top dps in all fights thankfully. T1 it is usually the MNK or SMN, our MNK did 324 DPS tonight http://i.imgur.com/Zefgg6I.png. T2 is irrelevant due to game mechanics, not counting enrage nub strat of course. T4 is BLM heaven, while T5 is usually the SMN or MNK based on RNG.

DRG preform the same as MNK if skills are equal give or take. As for primals ex, Garuda BLM. Titan Bard/SMN/MNK/DRG/BLM preform very well there and can top off each others form fight to fight but an excellent Bard with DRG in the party can destroy everyone in Titan ex, Ifrit I forgot.

My own observation and experience. Yours might be different so don't hate.

[Sleigh]

T1 - SMN rules, no one comes close to the multi-DoTs. MNK is closest, with it being virtually a training dummy fight if you burn Cad.
T2 - depends on route but MNK can win
T4 - BLM depending on the other members' AoE. If BLM has less time on AoE SMN can pull ahead.
T5 - SMN from all the groups I've seen. MNK is a close second but it can't compete with SMN's multi-DoTs on the Scourges, snakes, and Dreadknights.

[Ryuko]

I can confirm the claim that SMN and MNK do really well in T5. From my experience, it is almost always me and a monk competing for the #1 spot in T5, assuming the monk knows what they are doing. We do not have a monk in my static and I do not often get to play with good monks, but the one time we had to pug a melee I was super impressed.

It's really hard to judge a job based on their overall damage/dps because, as Sleigh said, SMN will naturally come ahead because of their DoT spreads and the damage that ticks while they are dodging. What I like to see is where people spike and when. Useful dps is more important to me than overall dps/damage. Most importantly, I think the use of parsers should be constructive (not just an arbitrary way to say who is better)... One example would be my static group... One of our members was not pulling their weight in dps, so we were able to (politely) bring it up and they were able to practice and improve, no feelings hurt. We were frequently hitting the hard enrage timer prior to him bringing his dps up to speed, but we one shot it last week. We complimented him on his increased damage and he mentioned he had been practicing on a dummy.

[NeoAmon]

Snip

This guy/girl and his/her group knows how to use parsers. WP my friend . I'm serious btw not trolloing or being sarcastic as I'm a supporter of parsing everything to improve myself and the rest of my group.

[wicked-one]

Well, in T5 it´s really hard to say. Overall, i would suggest SMN - because DoT´s obviously do Damage while the Caster is Moving, also Melees are able to dodge and Damage as well, so our Monk also does good DPS.

On our Yesterday´s clearling, I was top with 271 DPS, while the 2nd Blackmage was about 220...

While i made some short Damage Stops to have Mana Full when Knights or Conflag came, and still got the Topspot... while the equally equiped BLM got caught in Conflog and Knight often, so... in my opinion, pure numbers don´t say all about the fight performance...

[Sigred]

because DoT´s obviously do Damage while the Caster is Moving

Seriously... why do people still think this is a valid justification? Damage is only meaningful in relation to the GCD. Lose a GCD while dodging? You lost a GCD of potential damage. Having a DoT up has absolutely no effect on that.

[wicked-one]

Seriously... why do people still think this is a valid justification? Damage is only meaningful in relation to the GCD. Lose a GCD while dodging? You lost a GCD of potential damage. Having a DoT up has absolutely no effect on that.

Obviously, because I have no Endgame experience as SMN... and People keep saying that a SMN does most damage by his DoTs´,... so feel free to correct me.

[EasymodeX]

so feel free to correct me.

Sure.

The reason why movement doesn't impede Summoners as much is not because their damage is DoT-centric. It's because their normal casted filler damage (Ruin) is so craptastic that moving doesn't hurt them as much as BLMs (and they replace it with Ruin2, which is basically the same with a higher mana cost).

It's just design coincidence that DoT-centric classes tend to have stronger DoT damage per cast GCD and weaker direct damage filler abilities compared to direct-damage-centric classes.