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  1. #11
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    Starlink Nova
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard View Post
    Would be a bit easier to care about world firsts if we weren't talking about 8-man content in one of the most ridiculously casual MMOs in the current market.

    Actually, no, I guess it wouldn't. World firsts ceased to matter about half way through the last decade.
    100% true. 8 man content is for ppl that can play a lot and full time. I know that ppl w/o work girl and family ll play from morning -.- With a 20 man raid this is different bc 20 no lifer are hard to found.

    BTW gl to all for kills
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  2. #12
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    Nova Ultimatum
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    Moogle
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    Kudos to any Team that clears without having to look up the strategy used by another group, regardless of how fast they do it.
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  3. #13
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    Veera Aurora
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    Omega
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    idc if im world 1st or world last as long i can beat it

    i will take my time clearing content so i dont get bored super fast
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    Last edited by Crimson-Falcon; 03-11-2014 at 08:17 PM.

  4. #14
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    Kira Vaela
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    Mine is 20cm
    Alright, now prove it. Since there is no ruler in game, you have to be making this up!
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  5. #15
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KiraVaela View Post
    Alright, now prove it. Since there is no ruler in game, you have to be making this up!
    Meet me near Costal del Sol
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  6. #16
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    Grizzlebeard's Avatar
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    Fey Darkwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    Meet me near Costal del Sol
    Good call because the temperature in Coerthas wouldn't do you any favours.
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  7. #17
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    Carnage Incarnate
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    Have fun proving the claims, there are like 3-4 FCs claiming server first on Ifrit EM on Shiva. >_> Achievement timestamp only shows the date, not the time.
    then make them clicked server time instead of their respective timezone local time, problem solved
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  8. #18
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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard View Post
    Would be a bit easier to care about world firsts if we weren't talking about 8-man content in one of the most ridiculously casual MMOs in the current market.

    Actually, no, I guess it wouldn't. World firsts ceased to matter about half way through the last decade.
    World first never mattered, at least to people with more important goals, which is basically anything in real life. If something, the only credit given should be to the pioneers that discover the core strategy to defeat an encounter. If you already know what to do, does it matter if you beat it 24 hours or 5 days after it came out? It's not like the difficulty was lower the longer it took to beat it.
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  9. #19
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    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    Mine is 20cm
    Pics or didn't happen.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodPact View Post
    World first never mattered, at least to people with more important goals, which is basically anything in real life. If something, the only credit given should be to the pioneers that discover the core strategy to defeat an encounter. If you already know what to do, does it matter if you beat it 24 hours or 5 days after it came out? It's not like the difficulty was lower the longer it took to beat it.
    In the days before test servers world firsts mattered in so much as the uber guilds would essentially be open-world testers. They'd post huge threads about encounter design lambasting the developers and demanding tweaks to enable the content to be beatable (while closely guarding their strategies) and after subsequent tweaks by the devs they'd lord it over the lesser guilds claiming they, and only they, beat the pre-nerf content and that everyone else should be grateful for their intervention in enabling the rest of the peasants to be able to play the game.

    Google Furor and Tigole for examples of this.

    I agree with the general sentiment of your post however.
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    Last edited by Grizzlebeard; 03-12-2014 at 12:01 AM. Reason: Come with me on a journey down Memory Lane.

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