Another "they quit" thread

[Derceto]

Marketing or not, if you cannot produce concrete evidence to dispute a claim, you need to hush up. SE has gone as far as to make an official statement that could be challenged legally. Are you willing to do the work to do the same, or are you just going to be a side-seat speculator who thinks that empty cynicism actually as worth in the world?

lol really? Sorry, but this just isn't worth expanding on. Keep assuming the scenario that tickles your fancy. It seems to be working just fine for you.

[Amberion]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-FFXIV-and-DQX

Your turn. Where's your evidence?

Marketing or not, if you cannot produce concrete evidence to dispute a claim, you need to hush up. SE has gone as far as to make an official statement that could be challenged legally. Are you willing to do the work to do the same, or are you just going to be a side-seat speculator who thinks that empty cynicism actually as worth in the world?

You need to read it again. It said accounts, as in FFXIV service accounts. I myself have 3, 2 on one account and one on another. 2 was made for beta, none of them are active. They didn't answer on the question of active subscriptions.

[Doo]

Don't forget at least 100k accounts belong to gil farmers, or at least it seems that way.

[Hoodcat]

Also people paying for that sub stuff , I know lots of people that paid for 6 months for the eye mount ect. That stopped playing 2 months in... With a sub game in wich you can pay for in advance numbers won't really be accurate till it's to late if you only count by subs. Numbers on there end will just tAke a dump and they will be like.... Oh em geeeee who knew!?!?

[Skinwalker]

People are quitting because this isn't an MMO; it's an eight-player co-op game.

You do the same content weekly with the same eight people; you aren't even allowed to help others once you've done the end-game content for the week. If you don't manage to have exactly 7 friends, you suffer the party finder. If you have over 7 friends, the rest get screwed.

The lockout is largely to blame.

Agreed ! Thats my feeling as well!!

[Xatsh]

As a guild leader I agree with most the issues coming up.

The content as it is designed is just a nightmare for anyone trying to run a guild.

Members log on less and less the futher it gets into a patch, Fri/Sat/Sun are the lowest attendance days of a week. AND THIS IS NOT OK... it is a failure to allow this to happen. IT was an issue in WoW as well... for many it is was one of the big issues. This is a MMO you should NEVER run out of content to do. IF you do it is 100% the devs fault for not doing what we paid them to do. This is a sub game it is fair to demand a never ending game. Not one that ends after 4hrs every monday.

Every week I am forced to figure out how to make groups run with varied play schedules. What to do with left overs (people who are forced to pug). And how to plan things that are not coil due to the varied play schedule. And how to get people in the guild to play together as much as possible, which coil 100% prevents.

So more or less I am forced to decide what members of my guild I screw over each week and how I have to organize 3-5 groups of exactly 8 people into the exact time frame... it is hellish and about as far away from fun as you can possibly get.... Thanks for that SE, I get more gray hair over running my guild in this game then I do during busy season working as an accountant.



The content in this game currently fails as a mmo. I agree this is more of a co-op rpg then it is a mmo. Especially at endgame.

[illuminapanic]

IF you do it is 100% the devs fault for not doing what we paid them to do.

You don't pay them to make content. You pay them to play THEIR game. They can, at any given time, decide if they want to add new content or just shut down the game and guess what, you have 0 say in the decisions. The only thing you can do is influence what they do. Obviously they don't want their game to crash and burn without at least making some profit so what do you do? You listen to the customers who offer suggestions/feedback on what should be implemented and then they decide if it's worth their time to implement it.

[Royze]

If I was a gambling man and had a way of verifying it, I would wager the kids and those that don't have jobs are the ones who think the level of service is fine, and the working adults who are worth their space on this earth are the ones who do not think this game is anywhere near where it should be/should have been.

Yes, blanket, generalist broad statement. But I stand by it. The problem with forums is children can type.

[XiaoliVorgan]

I'd like to think that despite the number of "I quit" threads, the game may still be thriving. People tend to notice when friends and associates of FC and LS leave, you don't pay attention to the number of new players coming in. People are going by the number of their circle leaving. It sad to see buddies leave, but in the long run, no one wants to pay to play something they aren't having fun with anymore. Thems the brakes.

[Amberion]

I'd like to think that despite the number of "I quit" threads, the game may still be thriving. People tend to notice when friends and associates of FC and LS leave, you don't pay attention to the number of new players coming in. People are going by the number of their circle leaving. It sad to see buddies leave, but in the long run, no one wants to pay to play something they aren't having fun with anymore. Thems the brakes.

Yup, but it goes to show the retention rate of the game. And it seems really low if a lot of people notices their FC/LS getting empty.