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    This is just echo-chambering for a non-issue.

    Subscriptions are on the rise, not on the decline, as illustrated in interviews, that we've reached 1.8 million active subscriptions. Players leave and join the game continually, so it is expected that there are tales of people who have had their circle of friends quit.


    The problem lies not within the game at this point. Revolving door subscriptions are the nature of the beast and FFXI was absolutely no stranger to them during their 10 year hay-day. Just about everyone needed to be on the soap box on how they or some group close to them quit, yet the subscription numbers were continually stable overall.

    Here, we're still trending upwards at over triple FFXI's peak subscription numbers, and still record-setting above any Japanese-origin MMO ever made.

    I do realize World of Warcraft and other modern gimmicky MMOs have inflated subscription number expectations for success in the eyes of the western audience, but let's be clear here - we have likely doubled SE's marker for success on this game. And we're still trending upwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    we've reached 1.8 million active subscriptions
    The comedy never ends around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derceto View Post
    The comedy never ends around here.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-FFXIV-and-DQX

    Your turn. Where's your evidence?

    Marketing or not, if you cannot produce concrete evidence to dispute a claim, you need to hush up. SE has gone as far as to make an official statement that could be challenged legally. Are you willing to do the work to do the same, or are you just going to be a side-seat speculator who thinks that empty cynicism actually as worth in the world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Marketing or not, if you cannot produce concrete evidence to dispute a claim, you need to hush up. SE has gone as far as to make an official statement that could be challenged legally. Are you willing to do the work to do the same, or are you just going to be a side-seat speculator who thinks that empty cynicism actually as worth in the world?
    lol really? Sorry, but this just isn't worth expanding on. Keep assuming the scenario that tickles your fancy. It seems to be working just fine for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-FFXIV-and-DQX

    Your turn. Where's your evidence?

    Marketing or not, if you cannot produce concrete evidence to dispute a claim, you need to hush up. SE has gone as far as to make an official statement that could be challenged legally. Are you willing to do the work to do the same, or are you just going to be a side-seat speculator who thinks that empty cynicism actually as worth in the world?
    You need to read it again. It said accounts, as in FFXIV service accounts. I myself have 3, 2 on one account and one on another. 2 was made for beta, none of them are active. They didn't answer on the question of active subscriptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    This is just echo-chambering for a non-issue.

    Subscriptions are on the rise, not on the decline, as illustrated in interviews, that we've reached 1.8 million active subscriptions. Players leave and join the game continually, so it is expected that there are tales of people who have had their circle of friends quit.
    Someone needs to learn 1.8M accounts =/= 1.8M ACTIVE accounts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    we've reached 1.8 million active subscriptions
    They reached 1.8 million separate accounts in total. However, it was stated that only about a third are currently active around the world.

    Anyway, to address the topic. I feel that my experience is pretty unique since I've never run coil or even beat all of the HM Primals. From the start, I took my time so I could enjoy the game to the fullest. Gradually, everything began to feel stale regardless of whether or not it was my first time participating in a piece of content or my tenth.

    Nothing felt new, and this is largely in part to most of the end-game content consisting of predictable and memorable patterns. Going into CT, all I had to do was follow the group and everything went smoothly. There was no strategy involved other than following the specific mechanics. No organic actions from any of the bosses.

    Everything ended up feeling like a chore and I had no desire to log on anymore. So, I cancelled my sub. There's just not enough to the content to compel me any longer. More trials and dungeons don't mean anything to me other than more patterns to memorize. I hate that. Yet, I want to love the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    as illustrated in interviews, that we've reached 1.8 million active subscriptions. Players leave and join the game continually, so it is expected that there are tales of people who have had their circle of friends quit.
    Marketing strategies just work so well on people. It's 1.8million copies sold, not active subscriptions. Please do not spread false information. There was a recent interview between SE and 4gamers on another thread here. Please read that. Yoshida was also hesitant to announce the figures until the china servers were up. Of course, it would inflate the numbers so it appears to be doing so well.
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    Last edited by chococo; 03-11-2014 at 10:45 AM.