Another "they quit" thread

[Mergadeth]

After clearing everything, and exploring the majority of what the game has to offer - including jumping into the mountain in coerthas and running around outside the map to explore,

Care to throw some of that T5 win this way

:Q Holy cow! which mountain?? I must know! Lol.

[Sunarie]

I'm not going to claim that FFXIV is dying or anything. Though that is probably inevitable, as with any MMO (even WoW will die off eventually). I will say my FC is going through the same thing as the OP's. In addition to that the 8+ linkshells that we use to pull back-up people from for our Coil groups are also empty. The fishing linkshell I'm in, and crafting one, have both pretty much died. It's not uncommon to be the only person on. We spent over an hour the other day looking for one dps/tank/healer (because we have people with multiple classes leveled) so we could do Turns 1-4 of Coil. Our group doesn't have a bad attitude, or a bad name for ourselves (we can clear the four turns in under an hour). Most that have pugged with us eventually actually join our FC. There just didn't seem to be anyone on who hadn't already done Coil, or wasn't already in a group (there were 2 other groups in Party Finder for Coil, each missing 1-2 people). Mor'Dhona has also seemed a lot emptier. The huge dense crowding is gone, and there's a smaller sparse crowd there.

All that being said, I don't play on Mondays. We raid Tuesday and Thursday at 8pm CST. I don't even sign on Monday. For all I know there could be a server queue then, and Mor'Dhona/Wineport could be overflowing. Playing one day a week to knock out content in a few hours doesn't really fit my idea of active.. but maybe that's also just my server, and others haven't shown a decline at all. I don't know.

FFXIV isn't on the brink of going F2P or shutting down or anything though. I do believe they have got/are getting, a good influx of people from the Steam launch, and from the PS4 launch. Yoshi also never was out to maintain over a million active subs. If I remember right his goal was around 600k.

[Orophin]

So I guess what I've taken from this thread is - FCs shouldn't be more than 8 people.

[C-croft]

So I guess what I've taken from this thread is - FCs shouldn't be more than 8 people.

Interesting, because what I have taken from this thread is that people can't be bothered to do anything outside of their own 'static'.

[Anienai]

Interesting, because what I have taken from this thread is that people can't be bothered to do anything outside of their own 'static'.

This is the case with all MMOs. People form cliques (like they do in high school / internet forums) and anyone asking for help usually get ignored or scorned. Once a member of the "clique" leaves then she/he must be replaced and that's where the drama comes into play.

[Lumiin]

I'd like to know if this will be the norm and the producers are happy with it

I've been in 4 large fcs and multiple ls that are down to like 5+ active people. I brought my entire Aion guild here, they ALL including me have left. I feel that the state the game is in, everything being instanced, lock outs, etc. Will be the normal especially after reading that interview with Yoshi and 4gamer. I feel that Yoshi couldn't really handle hardcore gaming (Idk why he calls himself hardcore) so he isn't going to make anything close to having a challenge. He swears that, that isn't what mmoers want, which I think is wrong because there are currently no other mmos as easy as this except Hello Kitty. If people really wanted extremely faceroll easy content they would all flock here and stay here. There's just nothing to do in this game except que up for dungeons once a week. Even when they release new content it will all come down to the exact same thing. The game is designed to push you to level cap fast, you get to level cap and then you're only allowed to do something once a week. This is how it will always be, because casuals, this is a casuals game this is not for real mmoers. Didn't they only expect like 300k people? I think they know they aren't going to keep a lot of people which is why they expected so few because of the game's design. It sucks because I really wanted to play this game and I keep trying too :<

For everyone that don't like myth cap and the lockouts think about the alternative of grinding out one dungeon 500 times to have a chance at one item dropping pretty sure people will leave this game in masses then

Atleast we'll have something to do! Atleast we'll be able to run it with other people! Atleast other people will be able to catch up depending on how much time they put in. You can't do that with a token system, you will always be behind.

Lets not forget coil is RNG with a week lock out as well. Everyone thinks it has to be 0.000001% rng OR "Here take this epic for logging in" There can be a middle ground.

[Anienai]

Loves wow

This sounds a lot like LFR and Wow, but they have to wait til DEC (maybe) for WoD.
http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/world-...ate-confirmed/

[Lumiin]

This sounds a lot like LFR and Wow, but they have to wait til DEC (maybe) for WoD.
http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/world-...ate-confirmed/

I actually dislike WoW it's way too easy and the sad part is, it's more difficult than this game.

I understand you are trying to make a point, but no.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFWh9aY4pas

Add ons make it even easier.

My bf put me on his priest (At this point I had never touched WoW, seen few vids and that's it not even the trial version) because I was calling him a filthy bad casual (lol he's horribad!) he put me in a heroic dungeon, no add on. I healed the dungeon just fine. I was given 1 minute to look over things. That game is easy, HoTs heal for almost 1/3 of people's health, there's so many skills that heal for you. It's just faceroll easy. Even old WoW players will tell you the game is beyond easy now. Yet it still requires more thinking power than here which is beyond sad.

If you're having a hard time in FFXIV you either
A. Have lag
B. Have bad reflexes
C. Have lag and bad reflexes

I just watched that video you linked. You think going in a dungeon and no one saying anything about you not dpsing is bad? Here you don't even have to enter a dungeon you can get myths to get i90 by do treasure maps and tier 3 beastmen dailies.

[Anienai]

I actually dislike WoW it's way too easy and the sad part is, it's more difficult than this game.

I understand you are trying to make a point, but no.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFWh9aY4pas

Add ons make it even easier.

[Ehayte]

Atleast we'll have something to do! Atleast we'll be able to run it with other people! Atleast other people will be able to catch up depending on how much time they put in. You can't do that with a token system, you will always be behind.

Lets not forget coil is RNG with a week lock out as well. Everyone thinks it has to be 0.000001% rng OR "Here take this epic for logging in" There can be a middle ground.

Come on, you seem like a smart gal....

If you set the system to a 1% chance @ rare drop with unlimited tries, new people and people with a lower play time will have an even greater disadvantage, statically. The way this game will progress is that with every other patch or so the iLVL cap is going to go up, and the tier below will become a free-for-all.

i.e. in patch 2.2, Coil 1-5 is going to be spamable, as well as the myth cap going bye-bye. That means that a new player can start the day of 2.2, get to 50 by the end of the week, and a week later have full i90 by either spamming Coil or spamming Haukke HM. It is extremely easy to catch up with a token system.

Now, if the Myth cap stayed as restrictive as it is while at the same time new gear tiers with similar or more restrictive caps were introduced, THEN it would detrimental to new players.

Also, what is stopping you from running stuff with people you know? Duty Roulette? You either value your free 50 myth per day, or you value running a dungeon with your buddies. If you are hard-core its not like you need to use Roulette to cap myth anyways.

Also: This IS the middle ground. You can get easy-peasy full i90 set in like, 5 months, or you can do Coil and get 10-15% chances of getting loot every week as well to get geared faster. This is the combination of those two things.