Holmgang useless?

[TallonOverworld]

I only use it when i take giants in behemoth to not let them run loose but apart from there it just takes an extra place in my skill list :P i thought it could prove useful in caduceus split but guess what, all end-game bosses are immune to hold what a surprise... if you've found any other use of that "skill" please share

[cearka]

for the most part, you can't die while using holmgang. it buys you 6 seconds for healers to heal you.

ie, about to eat a big hit at dangerously low health? holmgang that and block with yo face like a boss.

[Kuwagami]

for the most part, you can't die while using holmgang. it buys you 6 seconds for healers to heal you.

ie, about to eat a big hit at dangerously low health? holmgang that and block with yo face like a boss.

Cad can kill you nevertheless. I think twintania ravages you too, I might test someday to confirm. In a général manner, pretty everyboss that doesn't care about the root can kill you through your "invincibilty".

Poped Holm and stood still for the 6 seconds for a DPS to get a LB level 2 off to kill a cad in turn 1 that was at 7 stacks for the win. It def has its uses.

Same as above ^^ You just had awesome healers (btw, my Static just ravaged cad through enrage way as due to a derp, the split happened at 3 statck and the healers had too much to do to let me live. Our paladin kitted it until the last 30%, then poped hallowed ground and we ravaged it like hell, with WHM spamming stoneskin and scholar spamming adlo

Not a warrior, but my raid's warrior was able to do 8 stacks in T2, only to be outshone by our PLD that did 10 stacks for T2 too

Although it's not prefect but it's still very useful in a "oh shit" time.

T2 can go to 8 stacks max. Also, unless you eat the fire star from the 3rd node (or maybe the pacman, never took this way), every iL80+ tank can survive at 8 stack. even with only 2 healers.

Its useful for turn 4 when things go to hell and oh do they... go to hell. Especially when your off tanking phase 5-6 transition when all those adds drop and the healers can't give you their attention.

Actually this. The only situation I use holmgang out of WP 2nd boss is in T4 phase 6, because we use the "burn dread" method. I have 2 sets of soldier/knight wanting to burn me down, so I begin with all my CD (vengeance, then bloodbath+foresight+conval), and after it I pop holmgang on an untouched soldier the time for my healers to get me up. By the time, the rook is dead, the bugs fed and at least one set is dead as well. The rest is easy part

[Traek]

I'm 99.999% sure that bug was fixed in 2.15 or one of the other smaller patches since 2.1

It was. I confirmed myself to be sure when they reported the fix. What people might be confused about is Titan EX's upheaval. This knock backs everyone regardless of CD used, including manawall/hallowed ground/tempered will, which all work on landslide. I believe it was designed this way because it is used as the enrage to knock everyone off at the end.

Cad can kill you nevertheless. I think twintania ravages you too, I might test someday to confirm. In a général manner, pretty everyboss that doesn't care about the root can kill you through your "invincibilty".

??? This isn't true at all. Holmgang works on all mechanics Hallowed Ground works on. I've personally used it on all bosses in Coil at one point or another. Not sure what you are talking about. Holmgang is useful if you are going to die otherwise. If you aren't using Holmgang before you die, you are doing it wrong. Whether it roots a boss is irrelevant. I do wish they'd take out the self root for anything unable to be rooted though. Obviously keep the no knockback portion of it.

[Shneibel]

It was. I confirmed myself to be sure when they reported the fix. What people might be confused about is Titan EX's upheaval. This knock backs everyone regardless of CD used, including manawall/hallowed ground/tempered will, which all work on landslide. I believe it was designed this way because it is used as the enrage to knock everyone off at the end

are you sure about that ? last week I pop temple will on upheaval by accident miss click and I did not get knock back

[Traek]

are you sure about that ? last week I pop temple will on upheaval by accident miss click and I did not get knock back

I was positive it did. I think there is a few FC people who need Titan EX win. I will try on both PLD/WAR to confirm on all CDs, and ask the BLM to manawall if I can't get in BLM for that confirmation as well.

[Kuwagami]

Video proof please. Holmgang works on Cad, unless they broke it recently.

Sadly the turn is done and my computer can't run a video recorder at the same time as I play. Though holmagang never worked for me in T1. Perfectly fine on everything else, but not T1. I know I was late on the reaction a couple of time, but that doesn't explain all my death. But I may try it with 2.2 when it becomes free access and free farm to see if it was just heavy lag issues (ie skill launching on screen but never recorded in server) or if it's really broken on cad

[LukeyP666]

Snippety snip.

I used Holmgang at the end of Turn 1 last night as I got hit by an unfortunate crit, at five Stacks, so hit the panic button. Cad's next auto attack took me to 1HP and unless this was a very fortunate coincidence, I feel confident that it does work.

Having a macro to let the Healers know you've used it , as mentioned previously, is good, as one quick Benediction from our White Mage and I was back on track to continue tanking.

[Anienai]

http://movieclips.com/BPUN-excalibur...-final-battle/

Holmgang starts @2:27

[SpookyGhost]

I've survived 6 stack Ifrit EX thanks to Holmgang and a quick Bene. Just make a macro that says something like "<se.1><se.2><se.3> BENEDICTION PLS <se.4> <se.5> <se.6>" and it'll actually have some use for those near-death situations. Also, as always, it's useful against the 2nd boss of WP when he's gunning for someone.

Unfortunately, it's no Hallowed Ground... but it still has its useful places.