Weekly locking out needs to be removed from all the future content

[NoctisUmbra]

Oh this thread again.

I'll say what I said there - it's intentional and it serves the purpose it is used for - to restrict the highest ilv gear the most.

The player lockout is also intentionl, as opposed to making it a gear lockout like CT, as with a player lockout one cannot repeat content each week until they get the loot they desire, and there is little to no incentive to sell runs until the content has been on farm for a very long time.

If Turns 6-9 don't release with a player lockout like turns 1-5 currently have, let's be real here... coil sales for them will begin very shortly after the first clears.

Wanna help your friends who are unable to be a part of a competitive static for the highest ilv content? Help farm earlier turns with them and get them geared. Otherwise, help them find/form a static. Level an alt if you're so inclined to help. People do that sort of thing. However, do not expect them to ease the conditions for obtaining the highest ilv gear in a patch. It is designed so that very few people are able to clear it.

Remember when Yoshi-P said they expected less than 100 people to clear Twintania before patch 2.1? Yeah. That's the plan. It's intended. It's enforced both via difficulty in content, and a player lockout so that once people clear they don't get to sell runs and carry a bunch of people through it.

[Alipoprocks]

Wanna help your friends who are unable to be a part of a competitive static for the highest ilv content? Help farm earlier turns with them and get them geared. Otherwise, help them find/form a static. Level an alt if you're so inclined to help. People do that sort of thing.

That is what we are doing in my fc. I don't like having to do the story quest all over again and I think it is silly that is the only way around it, but we are doing that to help each other out.

And the only reason is because of being short players in an 8-man group. Someone had a baby, someone loses internet, someone quits . . . etc. Gets others left out of coil.

[Orophin]

As much as people dislike lockouts in general, I think the CT style lockout works much better for people than the current Coil lockout. Any FC without exactly 8, 16, 24, 32, etc. members wanting to do Coil would benefit greatly. We've got a couple people who only get to run with the FC if someone else is absent.

I only have a couple problems with this:

1. I don't want to run something a potential 20 times (or less, or more) per week (for one Turn out of four even) for the one item I'm after, let alone for 7 other people. The latter scenario leading to:

2. Making it to where you can repeat content ad nauseam will turn Coil into something you PUG instead of something you run with your FC or a close knit group. Maybe this isn't a problem for some, but I don't particularly want to play with random people all the time, especially if the sample size is taken from some of the Ex PF groups I've been in...

Is not the lockout for T1-5 being removed?

Yes, but this is going to have no bearing on T6-9. New content will still work under lockouts to make it so people don't blitz through it so fast that they completely run out of stuff to do.

[Evangela]

New content will still work under lockouts to make it so people don't blitz through it so fast that they completely run out of stuff to do.

So they locked us out of the content and give us nothing to do?

[Moheeheeko]

So they locked us out of the content and give us nothing to do?

if it were the other way youd be complaining that you got geared in a week and have nothing to do.

[Fendred]

if it were the other way youd be complaining that you got geared in a week and have nothing to do.

But that's the thing. It shouldn't matter if we get geared out. The game needs to be more than a gear grind to foster a positive community. Gear grinds cause the different groups that these games attract to rub each other the wrong way, and it results in a lot of the negativity we see in the forums. An MMORPG is only as healthy as the community it fosters.

[UBERHAXED]

2. Making it to where you can repeat content ad nauseam will turn Coil into something you PUG instead of something you run with your FC or a close knit group. Maybe this isn't a problem for some, but I don't particularly want to play with random people all the time, especially if the sample size is taken from some of the Ex PF groups I've been in...

But people do pug coil so... Your entire post is invalid. People pugging pug because the people they know aren't that good. That's not a problem with the content. The fact that tens of pugs clear 1-4 each week on my server makes any type of argument invalid. The content doesn't require a static and people join static groups for their own reasons.