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  1. #31
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    Actually, in a well balanced party, that does everything well... can use Lb whenever they like... people that has issues, save LB for w SHTF.

    Also don't forget, some moves or phases in boss require use of Lb immediately in order to progress.
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    Goodbye, Final Fantasy...

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    He's not talking about trials, but dungeon bosses and he is right.

    To my memory, I do not recall one that asks timing or anything other than DPS LB.
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    He doesn't mind us conducting trials so close to his bazaar, so long as he's properly compensated... Yes, Portus, we pay him in sorcery-blasted bird flesh. - Cocobygo

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toranja View Post
    He's not talking about trials, but dungeon bosses and he is right.

    To my memory, I do not recall one that asks timing or anything other than DPS LB.
    Pretty sure since he talked about LB 3 specifically.. and mentioned thinking healer LB 3 was useless in anything after Ifrit HM, he was referring to trials and not dungeon bosses. That being said.. the majority of fights can be done just fine without a LB. LB just makes things easier. There are a few exceptions to that rule.
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    Healer LB= situational ( Pf/Df)
    Tank LB= very situational
    ( probably only ultima hm ? )
    Dps LB= most of the time

    I also witness a lot of LB hesitation in 4 man parties too.
    It always ends up to me having to bark out " use lb "_____" please"
    Cuz usually 8/10 times, the fight will end without the lb being used.
    Then i go like wtf lol, u should have used it because it could have shorten the fight = less healing i'd have to squeeze out.
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    Some boss fights have "stages" in which the enemy is more dangerous, and for that reason must be brought down faster (the one at Dzmael comes to my mind, but also Haukke Manor). I've had a healer accusing me to LB too soon while in Brayflox's Longstop (we were at the 2nd boss), and I pointed out that none of the battles in that dungeon had relevant moments in which a DPS's limit break would be more appropriate than others, and that I'd use LB at the beginning so that the rest of the fight would build up some LB pool for the next boss. So, yes, it changes from dungeon to dungeon. Unlike what some people think, DPSing is not a mindless role, and even this kind of decisions must be taken with some reasoning and strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    Some boss fights have "stages" in which the enemy is more dangerous, and for that reason must be brought down faster (the one at Dzmael comes to my mind, but also Haukke Manor). I've had a healer accusing me to LB too soon while in Brayflox's Longstop (we were at the 2nd boss), and I pointed out that none of the battles in that dungeon had relevant moments in which a DPS's limit break would be more appropriate than others, and that I'd use LB at the beginning so that the rest of the fight would build up some LB pool for the next boss. So, yes, it changes from dungeon to dungeon. Unlike what some people think, DPSing is not a mindless role, and even this kind of decisions must be taken with some reasoning and strategy.
    Dungeon wise. It is unwise to push bosses in and out of certain phases too fast. That's a "derp" moment when you push a phase without preparing for it, due to bursting issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post

    When do you guys LB?

    I don't always use LB, but when I do, I use healing / tank LB 3 to piss people off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Dungeon wise. It is unwise to push bosses in and out of certain phases too fast. That's a "derp" moment when you push a phase without preparing for it, due to bursting issues.
    I am talking more about taking out adds (like in the Haukke manor case) or finishing the boss quickly when the "final nasty stage" comes out, such as in Dzmael. I'm a BLM main, and I was always told to do that in both cases.
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    I don't always BLM LB.. but when I do, I kill the spiney and wipe the party
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunarie View Post
    Pretty sure since he talked about LB 3 specifically.. and mentioned thinking healer LB 3 was useless in anything after Ifrit HM, he was referring to trials and not dungeon bosses. That being said.. the majority of fights can be done just fine without a LB. LB just makes things easier. There are a few exceptions to that rule.
    You are right. My bad. I did read the whole page, I must have wandered off while reading...
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    He doesn't mind us conducting trials so close to his bazaar, so long as he's properly compensated... Yes, Portus, we pay him in sorcery-blasted bird flesh. - Cocobygo

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