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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    I love the responses to this thread....very hopeful...As BRD, I have used the healer LB maybe 20-25 times to resurrect a wipe. Want to know what happens? People just wipe again. In theory, saving the LB3 for a healer LB is the right thing to do, however it doesn't work so well in practice. If you are with a group of people who don't know mechanics to a specific fight, chances are that Healer LB is not going to save your run. Out of all those times, only one time my healer LB actually saved the fight and we got a win. Ifrit HM. And only because we could down it with 1 tank, 1 heal and me as DPS, because everyone else wiped again. Anything scaled harder than Ifrit HM, your healer LB3 is not going to help save much.

    On the other end of the spectrum, I have seen healers use the LB3 to resurrect the fallen DPS, and they just fall again. Kind of like PArcher said, Are you seeing a trend? Don't get me wrong. That ONE time I saved a wipe and we beat the trial because of my LB3, I felt like God. It was awesome. Noobs praising my existence and such. But honestly, no. Healer LB3 is not something worth 'saving'. Not in my experience, anyway.

    The other points are valid, about saving a DPS LB until specific phases. All HM primals can easily be done without an LB, but it helps I guess. But otherwise I stick to OP's sentiments. There is no point to hold an LB, unless for certain phases of trials.

    Tank LB3 for Ultima HM is the only support LB I've seen work with any type of repeated success. If you are relying on a healer LB to save your run, you probably should find a new group to run with.
    Healer LB wasn't put in the game for a guaranteed success. If you time it right, it can easily save runs, as you said you have done once. There isn't much more to ask for. No one is relying on it. You have to time it better to save runs, doing healer lb3 right before a big hit is obviously going to kill everyone, doing it between hits is going to save lives...

    Quote Originally Posted by Odd View Post
    I can't stand it when the melee dps try to wait for a 2 or 3 bar LB, when it's pretty obvious that by the time it's filled it will be overkill on the boss. I'll steal it from them if I'm on BLM or SMN so it's not wasted. There is ZERO need for 10k+ damage on a boss with only 3k left. Just because you like seeing the bigger number is only hurting the group. I agree with the OP. If the LB is full at the start of a fight, use it ASAP!

    This is not a good idea, you are taking a weaker lb and using it, when you could have probably done nearly as much damage from just casting, and you never know when someone is going to take big hits or some deaths will occur, and you will get lb2/3 due to big chunks of lb filling or even need that healer lb (I know its rare, but it happens) burning it as soon as you want to as caster is about as careless as you can be, it does almost no benefit. This applies less to SMN as your dots are doing a bunch of damage while you are casting, but it still applies, and as blm you are only slowing yourself/the group down.
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    Last edited by Mister-Wonderful; 03-11-2014 at 08:50 AM.