Why do you save your LB?

[Odd]

I can't stand it when the melee dps try to wait for a 2 or 3 bar LB, when it's pretty obvious that by the time it's filled it will be overkill on the boss. I'll steal it from them if I'm on BLM or SMN so it's not wasted. There is ZERO need for 10k+ damage on a boss with only 3k left. Just because you like seeing the bigger number is only hurting the group. I agree with the OP. If the LB is full at the start of a fight, use it ASAP!

[Odett]

Woah woah, I never said I agreed with using a Lv 1 LB right off the bat either. In dungeons bosses where AoE LB is not preferable and the melee DPS is free to use it as they see fit, I find it better to wait and try to get a lv 2, and if you can't, then definitely use Lv. 1 as the last hit just for the sake of not wasting it.

[BlueMage]

There are times its best to LB ASAP, and there are times its not. You can tell if you'll have time to build another bar after you LB.

Sometimes you don't trust your group, and saving it for the killing blow because you expect you might need healer LB3 - and yes, I've had groups wipe right after they used the DPS LB, where the healer LB would have saved the group, and I've had groups where we saved the DPS LB for the end, but ended up needing it for healer LB3 and winning.

If the LB itself is not going to be the killing blow, and if you know you won't fill it up to be able to LB a second time, then it doesn't matter when you LB. It doesn't matter if you brought the boss from 30% to 20%, or 20% to 10%. Either way, the LB is used just the same and you won't be getting off another.

People who are so gung-ho to LB that they get themselves killed to mechanics, and there's still 20% left on the boss, are just dumb. I've had idiots LB on the AK dragon too soon, and we end up with the bomb in the safe spot due to LB root and the boss with too much health still left to burn down.

I've also seen TONS of idiots burn their LB right as a boss teleports, thus wasting the LB.

[Lionhand]

In a CT run, try using LB at once without looking at the other groups chances of wiping (e.g Atomos) and you'll have your answer. I guess like what the others mentioned and in this case, timing it is safer than using it outright

[zaviermhigo]

Well if you are learning to just bust your LB at any time, you will have to UNLEARN that later on. If you are doing EX primals, of T4 of coil, and you wasted our lb just whenever it filled, I'd kick you. Had a person do that in my coil run the other day as a troll, I will just assume you are troll that actually knows the fight mechanics and chooses to annoy people, instead of thinking you just didn't learn to save your LB until the party said so. There are strategic reason to use LB at certain times, push a mob into certain phases, etc. So if its some trash content, and you are doing well on dps sure, LB whenever. But in ACTUAL endgame, past HM primals, please wait, usually you party will talk strategy and tell you when to LB, or who should LB. If you're on mnk and you LB, when it was meant to be a BLM those are two totally different LB, one could one shot a lesser mob, while the other could take a lot of dmg off of a lot of mobs, there is a reason why you wait. I just can't even believe this thread. There are a lot of fights you can get through without a lb, don't get me wrong, many a time had a melee/magic dps dead during titan heart phase, and you had to dps is down fast, have a healer in cleric w/e, but what I'm saying is don't get into the habit of just pressing LB when you have it, make sure you ask before, make sure its ok to just randomly press it. Or else you'll just see yourself kicked as people will think you are incapable of waiting. Its the habit that bothers me more than the reason behind it, if you get into this habit, you're going to be the one I'm yelling at in harder content where we did actually need the LB cause we're a lil under geared, think t6. After a while you don't need it, and do it without it, but its nice to have, and I don't want some guy being selfish thinking he should lb at the two mark cause its full >< new players shouldn't be taught this, its ok for old experienced ones to think it if that makes sense, we've usually done the fight a few times, can tell within first 5 minutes dps strength etc etc. New player doing this seems like....spoiled brat kid who is too selfish to think about anyone else.

TLDR: Its ok for low level trash content, but in real endgame EX primals and Coil, don't expect to do that, I would kick you for it, with good reason, there are reasons to talk about the LB, who should use it, and when. I really don't think anyone's good enough to not use a LB through t5 c'mon, lets not kid, so lets not get new players use to just LB all the time. IF you're with FC that's chill do w/e you've agreed on. But with random players (pugs), please don't do this, that's just bad practice for later. Now if you know "here is where someone should LB in this fight" and no one does, PLEASE DO, tank or healer shouldn't always have to call LB to you guys. Just old experienced players, that are clearing all content, its ok for you to think this. NEW PLAYERS: it is not ok for you to think this.

[Odett]

I'm seeing that there are misconceptions about LB strength. Does it say in the Combat text how much damage an LB did? If it does, I'll definitely perform a little experimental trial when some FC mates are on, once LBing with a full live party, and a second time with one or more dead members. I'll hopefully get back to you guys soon (or if someone does this sooner than me, I'd greatly appreciate if you shared your results ^^)!

[DouglasCS]

I have been under the assumption that a dead person's (weapon) item level is factored into the limit breaker's damage output as "0" (or at least something awful) and thus greatly decreases its potency.

I play a monk and have used hundreds of LB's over the months, and this seems to be consistent 100 % of the time. When things go awry in Titan Extreme, for example, and we have 3-4 people dead, I am counting on a different player to pop the 3x healer LB if needed because I know that me using it on Titan will result in a negligible amount of damage.

I have observed this in all other content as well. If your party is on the verge of wiping, and you use the LB as a clutch to finish off a boss, do not expect great results.

[Crimson-Falcon]

saving them can be wise idea in case for recoveries as ppl sometimes used to wipe wen boss about 10% - 5% HP

so u may need to keep it for emergencies if ur DPS is right on track

why would you need to use it if ur DPS is fine?

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

well. i say if you know the boss battle is easy. and the LB is already full. may as well use it. so you can do damage and let it build back up for the next boss fight. unless the next boss is right around the corner. like in CT.

but there is actually good reasons to save the LB till towards the end of a boss fight. most bosses go through phases. of course the already mentioned "skip a phase" strategy. and fights can get tougher the longer it lasts. so essentially it makes sense to save you highest damage output abilities or buffs for last. they have lengthy cooldowns.

[jars]

I don't

one time I used the healer one on kb because no one else was using it and you think I'm gonna sit around and let those bars go to waste?