Summoner Rotations

[Alistaire]

I would becareful when using Ruin2, as it can/will mess up PLD Flash(blind) when he need it. (for example, in Titan HM, if PLD is tanking you prolly dont want to use Ruin2 as the PLD can use that to blimd Titan MB.) depend on the fight. plus the thing cost like twice MP and 0 DPS increase. xS

PLDs don't flash to blind stuff, they flash for the enmity. You won't get in the way of that.

And nobody seems to be mentioning using Miasma II for when you're going to use Contagion. Bonus points if you pop a Poison pot between bio/miasma II since those work with contagion as well. So Bio II > Miasma > Bio > potent poison pot > miasma II > contagion.

[Wrydas]

I was always guessing, shouldn't it be better to use Bio->bio II->miasma? Bio is instant, and it's the most powerful dot, so why not using it immediately? If you use Bio 2 and miasma before bio use waste those 5 second in casting, while other dds are already attacking the mob/boss, if you use it at the beginning bio is hitting in those 7.5 second(each 3 second i know), so why not? If it's for fester you can ruin 2 after miasma and then use it

The damage you'd gain from applying BIO first is negligible, applying it last give you access to SC shadow flare and allows you to cast 2 festers with raging strike buffs without sacrificing your rotation. Additionally it simplifies your dot upkeep drasticly, I've tried all methods of dot upkeep and this is by far the easiest to maintain.

[Wrydas]

I would becareful when using Ruin2, as it can/will mess up PLD Flash(blind) when he need it. (for example, in Titan HM, if PLD is tanking you prolly dont want to use Ruin2 as the PLD can use that to blimd Titan MB.) depend on the fight. plus the thing cost like twice MP and 0 DPS increase. xS

All end game boss abilities can not miss or be dodged, so blind basically has no effect anyway. The gain you make from DPS is from the global cooldown. When you use RUIN II it allows you to cast fester, spur, rouse, sc, etc without losing seconds off your global cooldown thanks to animation lock. It is a DPS increase overall... A substantial one at that.

[Wrydas]

PLDs don't flash to blind stuff, they flash for the enmity. You won't get in the way of that.

And nobody seems to be mentioning using Miasma II for when you're going to use Contagion. Bonus points if you pop a Poison pot between bio/miasma II since those work with contagion as well. So Bio II > Miasma > Bio > potent poison pot > miasma II > contagion.

The DPS increase isn't worth the mana cost or positional requirements, I use it on 2+ mobs but not on single target. Although yes it is a DPS increase and may be worth it with raging strikes up. I use it when I'm being enthusiastic but I don't usually consider it part of my regular rotation.

[Alistaire]

The DPS increase isn't worth the mana cost or positional requirements, I use it on 2+ mobs but not on single target. Although yes it is a DPS increase and may be worth it with raging strikes up. I use it when I'm being enthusiastic but I don't usually consider it part of my regular rotation.

Yeah doing that is not something I'd do when positional requirements prevent it. As far as mana cost goes? lol...couldn't run out of mana if I tried in most fights.

[Wrydas]

Yeah doing that is not something I'd do when positional requirements prevent it. As far as mana cost goes? lol...couldn't run out of mana if I tried in most fights.

Really in some fights with a lot of movement I often run out of mana because of RUIN II, I use it to weave in instants and when I have to move.... My bards sometimes hate me but they can't complain because I generally do the most dps hahaha. The primals are a good example of fights I go oom in because of multi dotting + moving.

[jars]

are dots up?
if no ---> cast dots
if yes ---> do I need to save my aetherflow?
if no ---> cast fester
if yes ---> cast ruin

[Remn]

I do agree that blind not really effective on a lot Endgame boss, so far Garuda EX when tanking Her and sister is always a good idea to blind b4 they WW or down burst. ( i dodge a few what way.)
on Single target. You do not flash for Emity, you flash for blind. (unless you want initial snap aggro form newly spawn add otherwise you spam RoH combo).
Flash for Emity only a good idea when AoE tanking and snap aggro on newly spawn add.

[givemeraptors]

Another good thing to keep in mind is that it's generally worth saving Spur for (Rouse + Spur + Enkindle) but Rouse can pretty much be used anytime it's off cooldown and you can squeeze it between GCD. If you know the fight well and the ~time it takes to get through certain phases etc. then feel free to use Spur whenever you think it's appropriate.

If you're on a PS3 you may want to macro Miasma II and Contagion together. Bio II-->Miasma-->Bio-->run up and use Macro Miasma II + Contagion. Switching between your normal hotbars and pet hotbars on a PS3 is really...awkward and can probably eff up your timing. This makes it a bit simpler, keeps Contagion from being macro'd to a commonly used ability and still allows you access to it if you don't use Miasma II (normal hotbar access).

[AldoVonAlexandros]

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