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    I would becareful when using Ruin2, as it can/will mess up PLD Flash(blind) when he need it. (for example, in Titan HM, if PLD is tanking you prolly dont want to use Ruin2 as the PLD can use that to blimd Titan MB.) depend on the fight. plus the thing cost like twice MP and 0 DPS increase. xS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remn View Post
    I would becareful when using Ruin2, as it can/will mess up PLD Flash(blind) when he need it. (for example, in Titan HM, if PLD is tanking you prolly dont want to use Ruin2 as the PLD can use that to blimd Titan MB.) depend on the fight. plus the thing cost like twice MP and 0 DPS increase. xS
    PLDs don't flash to blind stuff, they flash for the enmity. You won't get in the way of that.

    And nobody seems to be mentioning using Miasma II for when you're going to use Contagion. Bonus points if you pop a Poison pot between bio/miasma II since those work with contagion as well. So Bio II > Miasma > Bio > potent poison pot > miasma II > contagion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    PLDs don't flash to blind stuff, they flash for the enmity. You won't get in the way of that.

    And nobody seems to be mentioning using Miasma II for when you're going to use Contagion. Bonus points if you pop a Poison pot between bio/miasma II since those work with contagion as well. So Bio II > Miasma > Bio > potent poison pot > miasma II > contagion.

    The DPS increase isn't worth the mana cost or positional requirements, I use it on 2+ mobs but not on single target. Although yes it is a DPS increase and may be worth it with raging strikes up. I use it when I'm being enthusiastic but I don't usually consider it part of my regular rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrydas View Post
    The DPS increase isn't worth the mana cost or positional requirements, I use it on 2+ mobs but not on single target. Although yes it is a DPS increase and may be worth it with raging strikes up. I use it when I'm being enthusiastic but I don't usually consider it part of my regular rotation.
    Yeah doing that is not something I'd do when positional requirements prevent it. As far as mana cost goes? lol...couldn't run out of mana if I tried in most fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Yeah doing that is not something I'd do when positional requirements prevent it. As far as mana cost goes? lol...couldn't run out of mana if I tried in most fights.
    Really in some fights with a lot of movement I often run out of mana because of RUIN II, I use it to weave in instants and when I have to move.... My bards sometimes hate me but they can't complain because I generally do the most dps hahaha. The primals are a good example of fights I go oom in because of multi dotting + moving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    PLDs don't flash to blind stuff, they flash for the enmity. You won't get in the way of that.

    And nobody seems to be mentioning using Miasma II for when you're going to use Contagion. Bonus points if you pop a Poison pot between bio/miasma II since those work with contagion as well. So Bio II > Miasma > Bio > potent poison pot > miasma II > contagion.
    PLD does use flash for blind....it causes big moves to have a chance to miss.....why would you not save blinds for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remn View Post
    I would becareful when using Ruin2, as it can/will mess up PLD Flash(blind) when he need it. (for example, in Titan HM, if PLD is tanking you prolly dont want to use Ruin2 as the PLD can use that to blimd Titan MB.) depend on the fight. plus the thing cost like twice MP and 0 DPS increase. xS

    All end game boss abilities can not miss or be dodged, so blind basically has no effect anyway. The gain you make from DPS is from the global cooldown. When you use RUIN II it allows you to cast fester, spur, rouse, sc, etc without losing seconds off your global cooldown thanks to animation lock. It is a DPS increase overall... A substantial one at that.
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    Last edited by Wrydas; 03-11-2014 at 04:45 AM.

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    are dots up?
    if no ---> cast dots
    if yes ---> do I need to save my aetherflow?
    if no ---> cast fester
    if yes ---> cast ruin
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    Aldo Von'alexandros
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    No no no, never spam ruin II, here, check this out, it will help u a lot http://shinra-ffxiv.guildwork.com/fo...ow-to-summoner
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    Last edited by AldoVonAlexandros; 03-12-2014 at 03:28 AM.