VOTE ABANDON

[Ddmk]

There is probably a thread about this already but I couldn't find one so here goes

This system is broken IMHO we were in CT and wiped twice on KB, vote abandon came up at least 5 of my party (including me voted no) majority voted yes and we were kicked out.

I would rather of had those who voted yes leave (with no penalty) if enough voted and the rest be allowed to stay.

A suggestion would be
If abandon vote passes give those who voted not to abandon the option to stay ie
"ABANDON HAS PASSED XYZ MEMBERS ARE LEAVING WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAY/REFORM PARTY"

This simple addition would of saved us wasting over 2 hours from original queue time to when we got back in.
am I being unreasonable what do you guys think?
EDIT:-
Had a sort of similar experience the other day
Was in CT and 75% of our players got booted out (90k error I presume) anyway we were down to 5 players across all alliances, within 5 minutes we were full again and ready to go, I presume that if my idea was implemented it would refill (through refusal to abandon)just as quick.

I understand there are times when abandon is useful but on those occasions you can always chose NO when it asks ....STAY AND REFORM PARTY

[Ddmk]

Hmm no responses so far either I'm miles off on my objection or people agree and have nothing to add?

[LordSliver]

I think the vote for abandon needs to be there only when there is either 15 minutes left or in dungeons not CT you dont have a full party and DF isnt picking you up a replacement

[randomrope]

I don't know of many players that are going to stay in a CT group when they join and see that only 11 ppl are actually in the dungeon (because the majority that voted to abandon have left). I would immediately leave because since the alliance is less than 50% full I would have no penalty for leaving. As with most CT threads I'm guessing you are using DF and not joining a PF group or starting your own. By doing that you are accepting the baggage that comes along with DF woes. Like you said. If you hadn't wasted so much time including your que time it wouldn't be a big deal and you wouldn't have made this thread.

edit: Oh yeah and the only people that the server is going to fill into your alliance are those that click "Join in Progress" and again nobody does that. So it would probably take longer than a normal que time to refill your ranks.

[LordSliver]

I think this thread intents were not what I took out of it. Vote Abandon, its a real issue in the game and especially DF groups. People use the Abandon button too loosely in this game and I feel there now needs to be a penalty for Abandoning when the dungeon could still be completed.

[Nash20]

Though Vote Abandon is nice sometimes...i.e. when there is someone just can't figure out the fight.

But it gets used way too often. Part of the reason to play MMOs is accomplish something against all odds. I remember my first Titan HM win was with 5 minutes left on the clock (before Vote Abandon was around) and that was the most satisfying win I've ever had in game.

I guess now though people would rather be carried through content than work through it.

[Peachy]

The ready check and vote systems are implemented really poorly and can be used to grief players or skip the intended penalties for leaving. I have seen this way too much and from normal players as well who have just accepted it like its normal and use it as well.

During hydra two people forgot to equip their unfinished weapon, one was nice and stayed anyway while the other kept asking if we would requeue, everyone agreed to but after the first fight. He wouldnt accept this so he spamed vote abandon on us. While we fought he kept asking us to kick him and refusing to help. So he wouldnt accept his mistake and help and he wouldnt take the 30 min lockout.

Also have seen tanks self d/cing if you dont agree to vote abandon or kick them when they want to leave. I wanted to stick around so they had to take the penalty but someone else took it after tank dc himself lol

[Maero]

I very much find the ready check system annoying, lol.
Also one of the other groups was doing on purpose in Ct yesterday to have all groups wipe on behemoth yesterday so glad there is a abandon option in there.
wow i hate CT now

[Spoekes]

Yesterday we had such a troll in CT who started vote abandon before any pull so it looked like a readycheck...

I think what we really need is to be able to see WHO initiated those votes (readycheck too) to identify trolls.
Vote abandon could also need a 2 to 10 min Cooldown to prevent abuse...

There should also be a more visible difference between the vote abandon and readycheck windows (the ones to click yes/no).

Edit:
Read OP again and i think i am a little off topic sry
I think the reason you may not stay in the duty with half the group is that they don't want you stay in there for 30 minutes blocking the dungeon-Slot waiting to refill 10+ Players - and this is perfectly reasonable from a technical standpoint where these dungeon-slots are limited

[SkyHighDN]

Umm... I ALWAYS queue for CT as a Join in Progress.... Even if I dont get the loot I want, At least I get the 50 tomes and the Philo's too. 3 or 4 In progress joins and I am halfway capped for the week.

Im also the person that will greed on practically everything so I dont need to keep doing the cluster F that CT actually is...

So I am in total agreement with the OP.... Plenty of people queue JIP for CT for the same reasons that I do, It is kinda rude that an entire alliance can vote abandon, and that is close enough to a majority as long as 3 others between the other alliance do as well.... and it really ruins it for everyone