10 min penalty for withdrawn person?

[Kugata]

Many gamers hate CT because you have to wait a very long time, and then there will be some person who want to take DF from last boss, and he join and withdrawn, join and withdrawn..

Why not make a 10 min penalty if you push Withdrawn button or dint pushed anything
If you pushed withdrawn then you probably "that kind" of person or have some other things to do so you can wait a 10 min or more, while doing something else
If you dint pushed anything while window pop you probably busy.. and yeah maybe for another 10 min you can be also not available

This really help us i think

[Sounders]

or have some other things to do

Yup, like bathroom break, leveling an alt, or .... (gasp) crafting. In my opinion, none of those deserve another penalty other than queuing again to the rear.

Just because some scums are withdrawing the duty to get easier loot doesn't mean that everybody withdrawing are scums.

[Niwashi]

Yup, like bathroom break, leveling an alt, or .... (gasp) crafting. In my opinion, none of those deserve another penalty other than queuing again to the rear.

Just because some scums are withdrawing the duty to get easier loot doesn't mean that everybody withdrawing are scums.

I think that was part of the point Kugata was making. If you're too busy and have to withdraw, then a 10 minute delay before you can queue again wouldn't be a penalty at all, as you don't want to be queued right now, you're too busy. The only people for whom a 10 minute delay would be a penalty are those who are just withdrawing and re-queuing repeatedly.

[Kugata]

I think that was part of the point Kugata was making. If you're too busy and have to withdraw, then a 10 minute delay before you can queue again wouldn't be a penalty at all, as you don't want to be queued right now, you're too busy. The only people for whom a 10 minute delay would be a penalty are those who are just withdrawing and re-queuing repeatedly.

Yes, many thanks ^^

[Bixby]

Since a withdrawal penalty is basically a deterrent against inconveniencing 3-23 other people, the idea occurred to me to have the penalty scale based on how many people you're inconveniencing when you withdraw. Five minutes for 4-man instances, 10 minutes for 8-man, 15-20 minutes for 24-man.

Not sure whether I like that idea (scaling) or not. Just popped into my head and I thought I'd jump on this thread to bring it up.

[seraseth]

There should be a penalty, but only if they have multiple withdraws in a certain time period. Anyone can miss 1 because they're in the middle of a craft, or looking at another screen. Doing it repeatedly in a short time period is when you start harassing others.

[Zacban]

Now my question is... what exactly are you trying to achieve with this?

It will in no way shorten you queue.. it'll only make it longer.. I could try to explain it to you... but experience tells me you wouldn't understand it anyway

[Niwashi]

Now my question is... what exactly are you trying to achieve with this?

The goal is to stop people from continuously queuing and withdraw repeatedly, so that having the DF pop up telling us we've got a party and it's time to start the dungeon really means that we've got a party and it's time to start the dungeon. Don't have it keep interrupting people over and over when in fact it's not time to interrupt them yet.

[Alazier]

10 minutes seems too long for me, 5 minute delay would be fine. Sometimes real life might get me just as the que is about to pop. I dont want to take care of something for a couple of minutes only to come back and have to wait though 8 additional minutes staring at menus waiting on the timer to go down.

[Niwashi]

If the main issue comes from people continuously withdrawing in hopes of getting an in-progress run, what about a much longer penalty but one which only prohibits the in-progress selection? So if something comes up and you have to withdraw, you can queue again immediately, but cannot select the "Join Party in Progress" option for another hour.

just a thought