Summoner Class needs a serious revamp

[Akiza]

They combined red mage and summoner from FF11. Just like 90% of this game is just a tweaked reworded version of FF11. They even have 3 starting cities similar races, this game almost feels like its FF11 but enough random name changes main story and quest differences to make it new. It would have been a much better design to make a summoner about the pet. Give summoner minor dot power and strong healing and add the red mage class next to the blm under THM where it belongs.

I don't agree with giving the Summoner strong healing because that would make it a Scholar with attack pets no thanks. They need to give the Summoner all six elemental damage, strong sustained bursts, minor dot power and minor healing and the ability to summon full fledge primal. Summoner should really have it's own base class anyway called an Evoker.

[Euphe]

I have a lv50 SCH, but I haven't tried SMN yet. Sadly I'm just not interested in it like I was in FF11. I really miss the detailed and impressive summons and the hard ass single summon fights that they had in FF11. Alas; this is not FF11 at all so you can't really expect it to happen. I've heard that they made the egis small out of fear for over crowding the battle field during huge fights and FATES which is completely understandable IMO. But they should have at least done them justice as summons and given them their own limit break gauge that would allow them to perform their finishers after a certain duration of being on the field. Maybe even keep it separate from the group's limit gauge and maybe make it not hit as hard just for balance purposes. I probably won't touch SMN until it gets a face-lift unfortunately ...

[Dohati]

as weird as it seems for smn to be like... "poison mage", if all the damage was from the pet, then summoner would be unwanted and suck at anything where you had to dodge a lot since pets don't dodge and you would be constantly resummoning. That and I think it's kind of late for a complete overhaul of the summoner this far into the game. this seems like a concern that could only have been addressed at beta.

[Akiza]

as weird as it seems for smn to be like... "poison mage", if all the damage was from the pet, then summoner would be unwanted and suck at anything where you had to dodge a lot since pets don't dodge and you would be constantly resummoning. That and I think it's kind of late for a complete overhaul of the summoner this far into the game. this seems like a concern that could only have been addressed at beta.

But pets takes less damage from attacks and the player could set the pet to follow them.

[Akiza]

The Summoner wasn't in the Beta so players could not make suggestions to improve upon them that is why these thread keep popping up

[Jediman]

summoner class is a disgrace as of now I'm level 37 going as Arcanist because I do more damage then the advance so called summoner class even with the so called ifrit and titan they want us to to believe they are avatars from final fantasy series lol



ifrit is like a staff you can hold and say lol



you feel me lord of the ring has made ifrit that looks more like the dam ifrit avatar



All the summoners pet look more like beastmen pet in final fantasy xi.

Titan is like pail of rock molding together.

[Mimilu]

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You literally copy-pasted this from a thread you made in the DPS forums. =A=()
Why are you using LotR as a comparison when the FF franchise has more then a dozen examples of Ifrit to choose from? >n>

[Akiza]

The issue with Summoner is it's using Disease spells from the Black Mage instead if Summoning Magic to summon all elemental damage and Primals. The problem that the developers created with the Summoner job is its a Affliction Mage not a Summoner.
Black Mage's use Black Magic
Whit Mage's uses White Magic
Summoner's uses Summoning magic

Summoner's should be able to summon thunderstorms, blizzards, earth quakes, tornados, fire storms and flare as well as Primals.