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  1. #11
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    Atreides's Avatar
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    I think this is a nice guide for some people to get comfortable with their class, especially when playing mutiple jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Misake View Post
    BS has higher potency than TS considering it crits 100% from behind.
    This.
    Bootshine will always crit under perfect balance which is a sure 225 potency hit while True Strike hits for 190 potency with a chance to crit.
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    Last edited by Atreides; 03-11-2014 at 01:07 AM.

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    Darwinian Origin
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 90
    One thing I find these guidess don't cover for DoM, especially BLM is sprint. It's extremely useful and can add quite a lot of DPS in movement intensive fights. In my opinion Aetherial Manipulation is great and everything but nowhere near as useful as sprint, yet I rarely see DoM using it. It can even be a game changer on fights like Ash, especially if you forget his floor rotation or something.
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    Kizuna Astin
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I alway pop IR, B4B, then PB and spam 4 TS and 1 Demo. my TS usually crit 2-4 time depend on my luck.
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  4. #14
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    Andros Dyrstwyrn
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Just to add to this...Miasma adds disease...not slow. Which is Heavy (movement speed slowing, but not the Slow condition) and a Healing Penalty. Soloing I can see a reason to get it up first (more time to get Titan-Egi in position or to kite) but in a party your tank should have aggro and be holding the mob when you start attacking it (yes, I know there are some times that doesn't happen) so Heavy doesn't really matter here...

    Only things I can think of that add Slow are Feign (LNC, cross-class BRD and MNK), Haymaker (PGL, cross-class WAR, DRG and BRD) and Lethargy (THM)...if there's another, I can't remember it right now.
    you are correct
    But there is shadow flare 5% slow aoe effect too

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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Thaliss View Post
    you are correct
    But there is shadow flare 5% slow aoe effect too
    100%

    Seriously, have you ever seen it not inflict Slow?
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    Akio Shikimazu
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    100%

    Seriously, have you ever seen it not inflict Slow?
    well it is a sustained slow which always applies on monsters inside Shadow Flare. The effect "potency" of this slow is 5%. That means a slow from a Dragoon is better but it has diminishing returns, Shadowflare still applies this 5% slow regardless.

    To the guide itself, it's a quick and dirty guide indeed, good for a quick rundown. In the end, it's just battle experience that makes you better over the time, to find your own personal and optimal playing style.
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  7. #17
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    100%

    Seriously, have you ever seen it not inflict Slow?
    I forgot :\ I'm guessing because it doesn't have diminishing returns like most other effects like it, and its always on (and honestly never seems to really do anything...5% off 2.5 seconds really isn't a lot...it doesn't slow oGDC things after all, and that's where the 5% would be really useful on enemies)
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    Mordermi Auditore
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Why is Quick Nock the go to AoE skill for BRD?

    Edit: Serious question. I am curious as to why this is.
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    Lynnth Stahlern
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 41
    Quote Originally Posted by Mordermi View Post
    Why is Quick Nook the go to AoE skill for BRD?

    Edit: Serious question. I am curious as to why this is.
    I am going to say due to the TP requirement and dps. It has the lowest TP requirement but the best dps of the 3 AOEs bard gets. That said, wide volley can proc rain of death free for 20 more tp.
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    Mordermi Auditore
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious View Post
    I am going to say due to the TP requirement and dps. It has the lowest TP requirement but the best dps of the 3 AOEs bard gets. That said, wide volley can proc rain of death free for 20 more tp.
    Wide Volley and Quick Nock have the same potency, so the dps is the same. I understand that Wide Volley uses more TP, but it can also proc a free Rain Of Death, which can then proc a free Quick Nock. I always use Wide Volley until a Rain Of Death proc, and use Quick Nock only when Rain Of Death procs it. I'm not saying that I'm right, or my way is better. I am genuinely interested in an explanation, as I am always looking for ways to improve.
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    Last edited by Mordermi; 03-14-2014 at 05:51 AM.

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