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    KaiserFire's Avatar
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    Kaiser Fire
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    Lamia
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    There's a nice variety of difficulty in the game. I don't think boredom has to do with being a hardcore or casual player. The majority of players still haven't cleared the hardest content currently. You can test this easily yourself by solo queuing for EX Primals in the DF, which the majority of the player base does, and then report here how many wins out of 10 or 20 were had. I'm no statistician, but from my experiences in the DF I'd wager a guess that close to 80-90% of the player base still has not cleared all 3 EX Primals.
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    ImDingDing's Avatar
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    Dingding Ding
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I am sure most of the player pool can't beat titan EX without a carry run (FC/buying/random luck in DF premade/cheat in PF)...
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    Loki Ragnarok
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 60
    I'm a hardcore gamer but a casual player plus I'm very picky, I wont get the best gear because of the stats I get them cause of the look of them so I still have my WHM/SCH in the DL gear trying to get there ct counter part and my bard/monk are in almost full ct gear cept the head and belt and my drg in tron gear. I still have not done coil I have tried garuda ex but continue to fail at it even though I know the fight, and I for one am thankful for the way SE is doing there ilvl progression cause then I wont have to die so much cause everyone will eventually be too overpowered for the set content and yes I don't care about difficult content if it takes me longer do it so be it there are other things I can do with my time. Since it takes me while to remember the patterns of fights I don't get the best gear like other players do in a short amount of time. Certain fights like titan hm was difficult till I remembered his patterns and can still be a pain if lag spikes come into play and wp can be troublesome with tanks bearly being able to handle 3 stacks then causing a wipe cause the healer did not heal in time so the difficulty is there just not everyone sees it.
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    Last edited by Hollow_Tears; 03-10-2014 at 09:06 PM.

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    I'm casual, I only maxed out one battle job~ WHM ang got my +1 for it. The content that made me feel me challeneged and ultimately "bored", was the extreme primals and to an extent, Ultima HM. Why? Mainly because the "learning parties" I set up typically disband after a single wipe :/ Ultima HM & Garuda ex so far don't seem exceptionally difficult, but just need learning, which is something I'm still incapable of doing due to the lack of learning parties and the impatience of those who participate in them.

    Everything else in end game up to Coil 2 felt "OK", not easy but not insanely difficult either.
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AiChyan View Post
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    technically the content is challenge enough but the impatient player & the rage quit make it frustrate to even enjoy it, right ?

    and T2 is not that easy either, major of ppl only be able to get pass t2 after the enrage tactic, before that it is pain to pug pt to get it clear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    technically the content is challenge enough but the impatient player & the rage quit make it frustrate to even enjoy it, right ?

    and T2 is not that easy either, major of ppl only be able to get pass t2 after the enrage tactic, before that it is pain to pug pt to get it clear
    Yes it felt like the correct level of challenging and fun (ultima and garuda), but no one is willing to wait on people to learn. In an ultima party I had both tanks, and a healer drop after the first wipe! Even when the description said it was a learning party.
    I admittedly never tried T2 "the normal way", but T1 at least was challenging enough and easy to pug. I'm enjoying the challenge but bummed at the lack of learning opportunities. There is only so much I can learn from just watching a video after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    You can learn ultima in DF. It's actually easier than in PF because people don't rage out after a wipe, because they are xpecting at least one wipe. I learned Ultima through DF, and got it down within 2 weeks.

    Garuda is much more of a wh**e though, and can be very tricky in both D and PF if people don't do the triple pull method.

    T2 may or may not be easy depending on the group and the method used. You take T1 ads, make 3 of the same with one new attack each time, then big boss. Big boss uses the skills of all the mini ones you didn't kill, and the make-or-break move here is the allagan rot. If your group can pass it without problem, the fight itself is easy. If not, then you won't win.
    Enrage method allows to burn the final boss without caring about the rot though.
    I resorted to PF because I waited for a party on DF for nearly 45 minutes and nothing popped up. The Garuda learning party went better but disbanded after the third wipe. Even then we actually learned from it unlike the ultima mess lol.

    T2 I did only using enrage, maybe someday I will try it with rot, maybe.
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    Last edited by AiChyan; 03-10-2014 at 06:41 PM.

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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by AiChyan View Post
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    You can learn ultima in DF. It's actually easier than in PF because people don't rage out after a wipe, because they are xpecting at least one wipe. I learned Ultima through DF, and got it down within 2 weeks.

    Garuda is much more of a wh**e though, and can be very tricky in both D and PF if people don't do the triple pull method.

    T2 may or may not be easy depending on the group and the method used. You take T1 ads, make 3 of the same with one new attack each time, then big boss. Big boss uses the skills of all the mini ones you didn't kill, and the make-or-break move here is the allagan rot. If your group can pass it without problem, the fight itself is easy. If not, then you won't win.
    Enrage method allows to burn the final boss without caring about the rot though.
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    Lucie Gage
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 59
    I would consider myself a casual. Only just got WHM to 50 (only job at 50) after several months play (mostly due to being indecisive between WHM/SCH as first 50). Finished Titan HM through PF thanks to some lovely folks on my server - only one wipe, although we did have 3 heal it...not sure if the other healer and myself were just spending too much time moving since we were new to the fight post heart phase or gear issues. I am very proud that I can make it through the entire pre-heart phase without getting hit by an avoidable stuff :-) Only seen post-heart...three times, including my two times in PF yesterday, so I give myself more of a break there.

    I personally think the difficulty is just right; things take time to learn but are easy after you master them. I do think CT is a bit too easy! It feels like the mobs before the bosses are more dangerous than the actual bosses. I also think some of the 4 man dungeons don't offer enough reward for their difficulty level.
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    Secare Miura
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Extremely easy.
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    Yumi Umi
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Once you feel like you know the content inside out, thats when it becomes casual.
    Being in a competent FC, LS, or a static pug of some sort; that's when casual kicks in at full power.
    Because you are so used to running content with the same ppl it feels all too "casual".
    Any content is do able once u have a group of regulars.
    So technically
    The % of availability to succeed =
    How casual this game will become to you.
    New content means nothing when u plan on running it with the group of ppl u run things with everytime.
    1st successful run will only be the one that matters. All the rest will be doomed to become a chore for many.
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