How do people calling themselves casual feel about the difficulty level?

[Kuwagami]

I'm sorry, I do not understand what you mean by this.
Would it be fair to say that you would appreciate content that maintains your interest by having some kind of difficulty?

Why are we in disagreement? lol.. Ok, it seems you just disagree with me as a poster but not my point...

Thank you for agreeing?

*Group Hug*

My turn not understanding you

What I said is that I'd want some dificult content which remains difficult even after clearing it a few times (even though it will end up faceroll after a month farming if we get a team to run the content), like PS. The pharos is way harder than it should be because of players (they do not care about mechanics, then wipe with no end and rage quit), so it makes it fun to run when people decide to remain nevertheless and follow the mechanics. It remains a hard dungeon due to various mechanics for Siren fight and the panic factor when running with strangers.


On the contrary, I could 2 men copperbell HM with my healer and for haukke manor HM I only have to check if the dps have at least DL weapons with 1 or 2 DL pieces. They are that easy once you know all the mechanics.

The only point I was disagreeing was the one about the proportion of people who had cleared the content.

[Rhysati]

I mean maybe you have a point there, I won't say you don't. If you were to walk around the main cities or mor dhona though, wouldn't you say that a majority are walking around with a primal ex weapon or maybe even a allagan weapon? It could be just my server Leviathan though. Maybe I just notice them. One thing I can say that I am *not* seeing as much are the Zenith weapons.

I play all the time, run dungeons and everything pretty much constantly. My main has PLD and WHM at 50 as well as a third class on the way. I have a second character at 46ish. I don't have anything other than one Relic and the rest stuff from tomes or CT.

But...think about this: When you are in Mor Dhona...you are in the 'dungeon grinding' area. It would be surprising if you didn't see a lot of people decked out. But that is still the MINORITY of the playerbase.

[Cherie]

I play all the time, run dungeons and everything pretty much constantly. My main has PLD and WHM at 50 as well as a third class on the way. I have a second character at 46ish. I don't have anything other than one Relic and the rest stuff from tomes or CT.

But...think about this: When you are in Mor Dhona...you are in the 'dungeon grinding' area. It would be surprising if you didn't see a lot of people decked out. But that is still the MINORITY of the playerbase.

Ok, but where do the rest of people hang out?
You did say you have a relic and more than one class geared up with myth tomes and ct stuff right? So do I really. I don't think I'm special. I have bard with some coil gear and myth gear mixed together. I have a paladin in totally ct gear. My scholar is mostly myth geared. I do have most other jobs, but they are all in philo gear.

I did say I don't see many zenith weapons, but to clarify, I do see plenty of normal relics. There are people that don't "grind" dungeons? What else is there to do? When I played rift, I played on faeblight which was their role play server. There was other stuff to do besides trying to gear up if you chose to. I didn't partake in role play, but I knew many that did. You could walk around the main town and see people acting out little "improv skits" as i might call them. But while there are some people that role play in ffxiv, there isn't a role play server, so they are much more spread out than what I had experienced before. What else do people do in this game? I spend most of my time these days just socializing in ffxiv. And maybe not everyone has a relic or even a ex primal weapon yet, if they keep at it, they could do it. Why would I be special or lucky? I don't think I am. Most people I play with would say I'm "average" and not spectacular.

Instead of nerfing content to increase the number of players that can clear it, personally I think they could improve the social networks in this game. For instance, Party Finder was a good improvement. If any of you saying that you are unable to clear Titan Ex were on my server. I'd actually be willing to help. I like running it. I might end up floor hugging a attempt and then you could laugh at me and realize I'm not unique after all. :P

[Haizen]

I play most night, and I am casual. One class to 50, some other classes to 20s,30s. Done a little trades killing, some gathering. I also have a couple of alts to play other races just for fun. I know right? Playing for fun..?! Crazy talk...

Not done any hard modes or relic quest. My gear is still below i60. But for me I really don't care how long it takes. I have played MMOs for over 14 years, and the one thing I have learned is that rushing leads to disappointment. I enjoy the leveling experience,wondering around in the world, and really never want it to end. I am casual and I play for fun, which for me, is the ultimate win.

[alhandra]

the game itself, is not that difficult. most of the encounters are entirely scripted and just need to be memorized. people make it alot hard than it needs to be

[Harmonium]

This game is intented for casual, the majority of the guys who can't reach the cap each week, and fail on everything. Myself i'm an hardcore gamer, everyone else who can cap, and who can do bahamuth a little in like 2 day, are an hardcore gamer, this week i have play 3 hours, done my cap, done bahamuth, i'm hardcore, i don't think so. I take a break till the update 2.2 come, i will play titanfall and some awesome game like infamous or diablo III ROS. If the update will still be a monday game for me, then i give up, i have lose, this game is not intented for me, let say the truth, and i will leave. Sometime you must stop wait the game change for you, you must only move somewhere else. And yes i like this game, but i guess he don't like me like i :/

Oh i will say what i have done in game like everyone here.

So i have my main a PLD full 90 alagan so my warrior indeed.
My dragoon ilvl 90 too !
My BLM ilvl 86 (mix allagan with ct)
My monk ilvl 84
My SCH who are ilvl 76

Well not that bad, i play till the release on moogle server, i have done so much primal extrem, i done bahamuth everytime, now if you think all of this is too much, i will tell you, when 2.2 is out, you can stuff all class in ilvl 90 in one week. Thing i have done in 6 month ?

[Goodberry]

I ask myself if I even play the same game as the OP and some of the other posters, and I have to answer myself NO.
Sure my game of completing Pharos Sirius and Haukke Hard 1 time out of 3 cannot be the same game played by the ones who not only have defeated all primals and coils, but think that it is so easy that almost everybody has done it by now.
But strangely, whenever I queue in DF I end up with players who seem to play my same game. Go figure. :P

[L-D-Omlette]

I mean maybe you have a point there, I won't say you don't. If you were to walk around the main cities or mor dhona though, wouldn't you say that a majority are walking around with a primal ex weapon or maybe even a allagan weapon? It could be just my server Leviathan though. Maybe I just notice them. One thing I can say that I am *not* seeing as much are the Zenith weapons.

This is perceptual vigilance. Like once you start driving a certain car, you see them everywhere. Same thing here. There are still a ton of people without relic/zeniths.

I consider myself casual now, and I attribute time to being my biggest setback in completing content. I played XI like crazy, and I just don't have the time for that anymore. Only things still not done are EX primals, Ultima, and Coil. I don't have the schedule to allow me to form a static for coil, and I don't really want to wait around in a PF group with crazy standards, that attitude just doesn't fit my playstyle. That leaves DF as my option of choice, which makes completing stuff a bit more of a challenge (or impossible in the case of coil). I know I could create my own party in PF, but I would rather level an alt class, or do maps while I wait, I'm not really in any hurry.

As to the difficulty, it is about where I would expect it to be for the type of game it is. Not to hard for most, but challenging enough for many. I do wish latency wasn't as big a factor, but oh well. I plan to continue to sub, especially looking forward to DFing coil, just to check it out.

[Harmonium]

Sorry Goodberry but what is hard ? You mean doing Sirius with 4 guys with stuff job ? Everything is hard then. If you are prepare and stuff a little and use your brain and try to find all the mechanic of a fight, the game is very easy.

The first boss, you kills all the wolf very fast, the bird, kill one eggs at a time, the last boss, you can stun her, silence her. Nothing is hard. The hard thing of the game is with who you play, if you play with guys who play bad, dps bad, do bad thing, this is not the way intented to clean something.

[lxSch]

I just don't see a point of doing any content past WP more than once.

i90 weapon - titan hm once, rest i90 - weekly myth cap.

So you're running stuff more than once... contradicting your own words...

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