Players not meeting expectations - why?

[Undrentide]

A member of my ls had an interesting run earlier in one of the Mid level dungeons, heres what he had to say :-

"Seriously, what's with XIV? It's pretty obvious that the average player doesn't meet SE's expectations. Earlier this morning I was doing The Stone Vigil as a SMN for practice and leveling.

There was an LNC in our party that actually thought that DRG was a Tanker Class. He knew of no DPS rotation and thought that LB was "Lifestream Blood" AKA Fill the bar, makes you stronger (Or something similar).

How can you reach all the way up to 41 and not read anything of what selected action does which or how the game works?

This partially explains the poor performance from the players that reach the level cap in end game dungeons and raids.

I've come to the conclusion that players do not actually read any earlier parts of the game to learn how to use the classes properly.

Hence, I beg of you Square. Please make more 50 based dungeons that actually teach the players how to actually use their class/jobs properly. Ex. Can't kill a boss until you use a LB, etc.

They need to raise the ilevel cap for the current endgame dungeons higher. Ex. Wanderer's, Amdapor's Keep 55. Pharos, Copper and Hakke (Hard) At least 60+.

Because what's happening is that the geared players that participate in DF are wiping due to the fact that the fresh 50 that just entered is taking on content that he/she isn't ready with."

[Mogi]

Or some ppl are just new to an mmo or this game everyone will go at there own pace if you can't deal with it maybe your in the wrong game? or. Put on your pro boots and tell them how to do things or are you the sort that will RQ or bash someone in the ground till they quit? id hope not

[Undrentide]

Or some ppl are just new to an mmo or this game everyone will go at there own pace if you can't deal with it maybe your in the wrong game?

Did you actually read the post? if you did, read the opening statement, this is something a ls member posted and not my own personal statement. I agree with what he is saying though and think that there should be a better tutorial system for the dungeons.

[Karnyboy]

we were all new to an MMO at one point. I had the luxury of playing Ultima Online way before there was any sort of "standard" set.

Back when literally all you did was log on to wander around with your friends and do things together no matter how random. That being said, we got to play MMO's over the years and experience new types of mechanics, learning from good players that used to actually mentor people. This is not rose colored glasses here, I honestly see many people saying "go look it up." rather than sparing some moments to help someone learn more than what it used to be

Ah, what do I care, I'm old. I hate people in general now, get off my lawn.

[Mogi]

Did you actually read the post?

Yep and what i say still stands do you help other players with there job or are you one of the pros that yell at them and then RQ most times when you run into a other player that's not the best at there job you can just try to explain things and move on

[Gextiv]

You don't tell me what to do! I'll SWORD OATH if I want on HM TITAN, as MT.

[TornadoFury]

thats crazy i had enough logic to realize blue means tank red dps and green healer after all the other dungeons i did..... and this is my first mmo to

[Elazu]

I don't think SE needs to do something about this particular problem. This is all on the people who outright REFUSE to learn.

The dungeons and story primals do a very good job of introducing players into boss and class mechanics.

[Undrentide]

im actually someone that will try to help others in game. Im by no means a hardcore player or anything, i havent cleared all the content, nor do i profess to have. Anyways your derailing the thread so back on subject please.

[BeePee]

The whole game is a tutorial up to level 50. If you feel players aren't reading things during that time, what makes you think they'd be more apt to read once they hit 50?

Also, I agree with Mogi. If you end up in a run like that, take the time to explain things.