Open Suggestions for increasing trade

[CurrySonic]

On mall: Part of it stems from some concerns from a conversation I had with someone over worrying that they might be contributing to RMT services if they bought something off of the market board, and a part of it is me wanting to expand player experiences and markets. The MB would be for individual gain while the mall would work for FC's to compete with each other with their wares, which would be crafted items.

Ah ok. I kinda get what you are getting at now. Yeah I do share that sentiment about not wanting to inadvertently contribute to RMT. Like that time I had to buy more fire shards, but didn't want to get the cheapest one since it was OBVIOUSLY supplied by a RMT retainer (2000 shards times 15 stacks for the same retainer? Obviously not human). I am ashamed to say I caved in though >_>

[Sparky]

MPNZ, I certainly think point 2 is viable - getting rid of vendor obtainable gear from 45-47 would make players think a little more about their gear-path towards iLVL 55 and beyond. Maybe this will allow people to start thinking of crafted gear at later levels for what it really is at present - a stepping stone, a kind of a mid tier towards the high item levels. It would certainly increase the demand for one and two star crafted items.

But I guess this would not work. The forums would be inundated with people complaining that the only way to gear up towards level 50 is from craftables. SE are damned if they do something about crafting, damned if they don't. No matter what happens, there will be whining from somewhere.

[Sparky]

I definitely think that making Gil less scarce is something which ought to be considered. Of course you'll get the usual arguments such as "This isnt WoW, look at the inflation in that game". But what people need to realise that yes prices will inflate, but there would be greater capacity to spend, and therefore greater capacity to earn.

Then there will be those who say that more Gil in the economy will encourage more RMT... yeah, like they are reaaally dissuaded at the moment right? If anything, things would be more favourable for RMT if they stayed the way they are.

[Zourin]

RMT selling things at discount rates isn't a bad thing. In the case of shards, they're actually HELPING by keeping the universal manufacturing costs to a minimum. It's an artificial suppression, yes, but it's compensating for Sqeenix's blazing ineptness for balancing shard production vs consumption for levelling crafters.

What's bad about RMT is the other end of the process, but ultimately, that falls on the desperate idiot on the other end keeping them in business.

So.. in the larger scale of things, the RMT market is keeping shard prices modestly affordable. Shards were meant to be a bit of a throttle on how fast crafters can craft, but with leve material rewards (pre-supplied ingredients, good shard rewards) having been demolished in 2.0, RMT is providing a net service in the long run.

I would rather have an ever-increasing block list than 100 gil fire shards.

[RocketUnderwear]

Honestly there is only one way way to fix the market in this game. Remove 99% of all noncrafted gear from the game. If that can not be done than make sure that crafted gear is better than drop gear.

[Enna]

In my opinion there is only one way to fix markets, crafting, gil making ecc...: remove allagan tomstones. Noncrafted gear is much better and easier to obtain. Why should i become crazy to craft a lvl 70 hat when i need 2 and a half days to obtain 495myth for a lvl 90 hat?

[DarkDedede]

Apologies if this was already suggested. I think it would be helpful if they implemented a feature where we could use alternate ingredients in recipes. For example, using a higher level material a lower level recipe (perhaps for a quality bonus), or having more material options to make glamour prisms. This would definitely help demand for the surplus of luminary spam materials currently on the market (cobalt comes to mind).

[AttacKat]

Opportunities to make gil are low and feels like its getting lower. ... Our marketplace is simply facing a lack of trade/buyers.

So dear readers, how do we make it so people will buy more stuff?

MAJOR market system revamp. This current system is useless, most items are worth less then sh*t because the game gives better items out for free, and it lacks required functions to support a full functioning market.

I will write up about this in a new thread sometime this weekend. (edit)

jc

[CurrySonic]

Update since 2.2

Honestly I feel things are a lot better now with extra spending money people have from roulette and bonus's! I'm really happy with things right now. Guess there are simply ups and downs just like the real world.

No insane inflation either! Pretty happy

[Tenshodo]

Showing the amount it's listed for is dumb, imo.

"Oh this item is listed for X amount of gil? I'll just list mine 1 gil cheaper herpaderp.." And the next 15 people follow suit..

So then you spend spend the next several days watching the price plummet to over half what it was when you listed yours. Awesome idea!