Need SMN/SCH Advice

[Freyt]

Scholars are all about those critical heals. 30 MND will give you no increased critical heal chances. You'll have enough MND from gear to get you through everything. Just go with 30 INT. This is coming from someone who specced into 30 MND. I kinda wish I hadn't. Though 30 INT isn't likely to do all that much either.

[Pinoy]

I made two chars a sch and smn. I love both but i can't stand switching back and forth and spending hymns. I wouldn't advice you to spend 15/15 if you raid group are serious with end game.

[Alistaire]

Yes, level an alt for SMN. Easy peasy crossclass requirements, you can get away with thm 26 and arc 4 without any major loss. Levelling first job on a character is even more a joke than it was before roulettes. You'll get 2x the opportunities of whatever content is currently on weekly limits: double the myth/ct/coil now, double turns 6-9/new tomes after 2.2. I did this and don't regret it in the slightest.

You also get the opportunity to choose a race with highest INT; I play a roegadyn sea wolf sch and an elezen wildwood SMN. So 35 int difference between my roegadyn with MND+30 and what my SMN would be at for INT if I played it on the same character.

Also double the rested xp, leves, map allowances, etc.

Also consider that Yoshi P said he eventually wants all classes to branch off like acn does and it's very possible some or all will have the same dilemma acn currently has.

[Alu79]

You'll likely see the impact 15 (or 30) MND has on heals before you will if you dumped them into INT. I can unequip 2-3 pieces of gear before I actually see a definite change in healing out put and I can go and unequip 3-4 pieces before I see a real change in damage numbers. This is in CT gear which has pieces with exactly 15 MND/INT, ilvl 90 accessories + belt and upgraded relics. Anyone saying that you have to dump those points anywhere to be successful is an extreme min/maxer as those points could be left unspent and not affect a thing far as your success/fail rate.

Knowing a fight and having the strongest weapon available > 30 points spent anywhere. Those 30 points might have an impact on say a full raid nights combat log but not for a singular fight on any given raid night. Also consider the delta on highs and lows for any given spell and really the impact of those 30 points are even harder to track.

If you want proof of any of this just take your highest geared character and smack something, record the numbers and unequip a piece of gear, repeat the process and rinse and repeat until you see a real change in numbers. You'll be pretty surprised how much in stats it takes to see a change in either direction, I know I was.

[AldoVonAlexandros]

well its rare that a smn runs out of mp, even energy drain is unusefull and sch has almost unlimited mp so...

[Maelwys]

Another vote for +30 INT.

SCH heals are still perfectly fine with -30 MND at endgame.
(will it make a difference? Yes... but much less than -30 INT on BLM. You'll still be able to Physick for ~1k HP with BIS gear)

Honestly the only time I really wish I had more +MND on my SCH is when I'm in Cleric Stance...

[Andres_Lonegrief]

I have the same dilemma, but i can't make up mind. I just hope someday SMN and SCH won't share the same attribute points ...

[Shikiseki]

I got my points on INT but only because I like to play SMN more, although my Scholar is usually the one role that has more demand xD. So far, I had no problems with the -30 Mind, like the others said, it's just a min/max thing which can help in endgame but for a Scholar it's not a big deal, considering Sacred Soil, Lustrate, Bane, Energy Drain, Aetherflow, DoTs, most Fairy buffs, Virus, Eye for an Eye all don't use Mind - which is basically 3/4 of your skillset.

You might want to spec according to your usage of those 2 classes. Could be 15/15 or 20/10 or even other stats like piety. Free stats are just there for a tiny bit of customization.

[Taerra]

sorry i'm skipping the posts, did not read em.

In order to min max you will have to chose one, otherwise 15/15 is a good choice. I my opinion, mind is more critical for SCH to perform than INT for SMN to perform. If you don't want to go either way Piety could serve both classes. I used to be in the same dilema as you and decided to drop SMN in favor of BLM and use SCH to heal. That solved my problem. Full MND.

[Neyasa]

So this is my first magic class that I will be trying to level and use and I need some advice.

I want to be able to use SMN and SCH, so how should I distribute my stats?

I heard that a 50/50 hybrid is good. I have tried googling and have seen some archaic stuff about it back from Sept 2013 that seemed mostly speculation. I'm hoping some experts can help me out lol.

Also, is it okay to try and play as both jobs or will it prevent me (or greatly affect me) from doing Binding Coil and etc.

Long as you realize its for you and not the pets. Pets go by skill level of regular skills which are automatically capped within this version of FF Online.