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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    The grim reaper is a farmer, not a fighter. He comes for his crop when it is ready, not a moment before.
    But no one complains about it in Castlevania games and Scythe ws was badass in FFXI.

    Scythes have been in used in videos for a long time, heck there's a Pokemon named Scyther. It just boils down to FFXI HATE!! Hmm being limited to one weapon in FFXIV does suck though.
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    :> Scythe cuz it looks cool. In XI players using great sword always looked like they would topple over ... .=-=;

    It shouldn't be a tank job. Dark Knight is supposed to be the inverse of Paladin. ~_~;;

    >_> so what if a scythe is a botanists secondary tool... we have axes for WAR, same diff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    But no one complains about it in Castlevania games
    That's because Death has been getting his ass kicked repeatedly by the Belmonts + Alucard since the beginning of the series.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    But no one complains about it in Castlevania games and Scythe ws was badass in FFXI.

    Scythes have been in used in videos for a long time, heck there's a Pokemon named Scyther. It just boils down to FFXI HATE!! Hmm being limited to one weapon in FFXIV does suck though.
    a dark knight doesn't use scythes, it doesn't have anything to do with hating 11. i wouldn't mind seeing some unique ff11 classes but i don't wanna see the ones ff11 ruined like drk and rdm.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Fyi: XI was (and likely still is) the most profitable FF title to date, it doesn't matter what your opinion is and yes, you do come off as hating as XI didn't "ruin" anything. The ironic thing is, XIV ruined Black Mage and Summoner.
    opinion? no DRK has never used scythes that's a fact, rdms have always only used whm blm giving them other spells means they aren't a rdm fact.

    opinion wise is if the class sucked or not.
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    Last edited by Musashidon; 03-09-2014 at 04:52 PM.

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    Greatsword is the only weapon for a Dark Knight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    But no one complains about it in Castlevania games and Scythe ws was badass in FFXI.

    Scythes have been in used in videos for a long time, heck there's a Pokemon named Scyther. It just boils down to FFXI HATE!! Hmm being limited to one weapon in FFXIV does suck though.
    so, a guy who barely even ranks on "inclusion in my strategy guide" level and a pokemon justify a "weapon" that is wildly impractical and a greater threat to the user than any opponent they would ever wield it against.

    If the dark knight is more magic than sword then just have 'em use a staff. it's a more practical weapon.

    If it's more sword than magic, have 'em use a SnS or great sword, it's a more practical weapon, and it's far better on the lore(one game used scythes out of the entire series...)
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    i don't wanna see the ones ff11 ruined like drk and rdm.
    Nah FFXI made them extremely fun to play, more fun than any current job in FFXI I might say. Dark had cool weapon skills and job traits such as Guillotine, Cross Reaper, Soul Eater, Blood weapon, etc. Add in thief subjob for sneak attack/trick attack. Sooooo fun! Also RDM Chainspell, En-spells, magic burst, stuns, tractor, etc. So versatile!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    The scythe is a weapon for farmers, not knights.
    Yet I've been destroying gods with my "weapon for farmers".

    Funny how that works in a Final Fantasy game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    a dark knight doesn't use scythes, it doesn't have anything to do with hating 11. i wouldn't mind seeing some unique ff11 classes but i don't wanna see the ones ff11 ruined like drk and rdm.
    Fyi: XI was (and likely still is) the most profitable FF title to date, it doesn't matter what your opinion is when it comes to what how Dark Knight should be designed as FF classes evolves over time and XI gave more personality to them, usually you want it to evolve higher rather than regress and yes, you do come off as hating as XI didn't "ruin" anything. The ironic thing is, XIV ruined Black Mage and Summoner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    The ironic thing is, XIV ruined Black Mage and Summoner.
    Soooooo true. Ruined brd too!

    Edward is rolling over in his grave right now.

    http://finalfantasy.istad.org/wp-con...-to-edward.jpg
    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    a "weapon" that is wildly impractical and a greater threat to the user than any opponent they would ever wield it against.
    http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...x-Sc5-tira.jpg

    What next? Gun blades?

    http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...a-Revolver.png
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    Last edited by Doo; 03-09-2014 at 05:27 PM.

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    For those who have never actually used one (I have) I can promise you that a scythe "used' as a weapon on another human being would be gruesome, the old school two handed grain scythes are quite capable of separating someone from their leg(s).

    Scythes were used in medieval uprisings to just such gruesome effect, the ones depicted in xi are built with a more combat oriented shape of manufacture than agricultural models, and being effective with one would pretty much require an absence of armor or shield on any enemy.

    However claiming that scythes cannot be considered a weapon is reaching.

    To say this or that weapon isn't suited to dark knight is amusing to me, the nailbat isn't some recent invention, it's been around in some form or another as long as people have been killing one another, and if one is going to say that some weapon is iconic to a fantasy series or knightly role I would actually say the spiked gauntlet is the favorite.

    Get inside the lance at close range and killing someone with spiked gauntlets isn't any reach at all
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    Last edited by Lamentations; 03-09-2014 at 05:43 PM.

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