Really ... more iLv50 ish Dungeons

[L-D-Omlette]

If the actual 'iLv' to beat these new dungeons is 65-70 ... then SE needs to state it as Min Req, not some super low iLv. This will only serve to waste others time when a tank with 4200 HP joins and the group wipes repeatedly. (Has happened to me in Pharos, Tank had the lowest HP of the Group).

The practical iLvL for an AVERAGE group probably will be closer to i65-70, but as a MINIMUM, a group of competent and skilled players could pull it off w/ i55. What would you say the MINIMUM for coil is? Do you think the AVERAGE pug can do it at that level? Probably not, but a skilled group can. Should all players be forced to go into content at the average requirement?

I'm gonna laugh when everyone flips out that coil T1 has ~i65 for it's pre-req. First players to beat it were likely close to that.

Edit: Also, fresh 50's won't be able to queue for i55 without doing a little bit of work. Full AF gives you i51 for those 5 slots. Even if they go get the FC weapon that is only one more slot at i55, so raise that to i52 if rounding is correct. Odds are good that most fresh 50s won't have higher than i55 accessories right of the bat, and it would take at least two at i60 + to get to i55 overall. Even if they do story roulette to finish their story line, that alone is not enough to get them two DL accessories. Granted, they could buy stuff on the MB, but I doubt most fresh 50s are going to do that.

I'd say the first to clear T1 Coil had Full Darklight with a few Mythos sprinkled in and Relic Weapon(Maybe even Zenith). So more like iLv75. The gear check on Cad is pretty huge tbh. Tanks have to have proper gear to mitigate damage, healers have to as well to recover lost HP and DD have to down the snakes before an inevitable wipe from too may stack.

Eh, close enough. My point is that it will probably be lower than the playerbase demands/expects (remember Titan HM, before the requirement existed), and then I will laugh.

[LordSaviour]

I'm gonna laugh when everyone flips out that coil T1 has ~i65 for it's pre-req. First players to beat it were likely close to that.

I'd say the first to clear T1 Coil had Full Darklight with a few Mythos sprinkled in and Relic Weapon(Maybe even Zenith). So more like iLv75. The gear check on Cad is pretty huge tbh. Tanks have to have proper gear to mitigate damage, healers have to as well to recover lost HP and DD have to down the snakes before an inevitable wipe from too may stack.

[Viridiana]

I'd say the first to clear T1 Coil had Full Darklight with a few Mythos sprinkled in and Relic Weapon(Maybe even Zenith). So more like iLv75. The gear check on Cad is pretty huge tbh. Tanks have to have proper gear to mitigate damage, healers have to as well to recover lost HP and DD have to down the snakes before an inevitable wipe from too may stack.

Would love to hear how they had myth pieces within the first week of launch. >_>

[Chihaya]

Low ilvl requirement for dungeons does not mean it is going to be easy, Pharos at ilvl49 or the extreme primals at the lowest ilvl through out the whole party would be difficult.

High ilvl gear on a character does not mean they are good, not knowing mechanics can easily cause a wipe... and some are unable to learn... like the QQ thread that a mnk made awhile ago about getting kicked from T2 because they kept getting cleaved to death by minis/ads. It was their first time doing it the way it is meant to be done, tank swapping.

[Alkimi]

I'd say the first to clear T1 Coil had Full Darklight with a few Mythos sprinkled in and Relic Weapon(Maybe even Zenith). So more like iLv75. The gear check on Cad is pretty huge tbh. Tanks have to have proper gear to mitigate damage, healers have to as well to recover lost HP and DD have to down the snakes before an inevitable wipe from too may stack.

When lots of people started clearing it sure. But the first people to clear it did with crappy gear. If you do the fight as intended, feeding the slimes even after the split, then you really don't need any gear at all, as the snakes hit for nothing with no stacks and the determination debuff. I think I was at i64 ish (on WHM) when we got our first Turn 1 kill, and one of our PLDs was still wearing AF body all the way up to our first T4 kill.