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  1. #11
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    BigBoss3237's Avatar
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    And what I mean by this is, give jobs diversity, maybe add a sub job for each job like warrior, if it wants to tank let them tank but if it wants to dps let them be able to, same with the other jobs. Let jobs have other roles so people don't have to wait 30-40 minutes for a tank or whm.
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  2. #12
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss3237 View Post
    I also want to add, let there be diversity each class. Like allow classes to do different roles, don't be afraid to experiment.
    That's fair enough, and yes, I would love to experiment with different roles on a class too, but the problem is, human nature being what it is, inevitably someone finds a combination that is the easiest to do for the greatest return/reward, and players will then adopt that as 'standard' and refuse to acknowledge or bother with anything else. FFXI is a perfect example of this with the sub job system - it was set up to allow players to customize their subs, but instead players always went with just one or two standard combinations and ignored anything else (WAR sub with NIN or PLD, BLM with WHM/RDM/SMN, NIN sub with melees etc). How many people did you see subbing WHM on a melee?

    Granted some combinations were deliberately weak due to their primary abilities being locked to that Job as a main (such as most BRD songs requiring an instrument which could only be equipped as BRD main - subbed you couldn't equip them and hence couldn't use most of their songs while it was subbed), but still, because of this players still developed a narrow way of thinking about sub jobs and would criticize anyone who even remotely thought outside the box (I used to get so much ridicule for daring to have a MNK sub with my WAR, or SMN sub with my WHM for instance - they were potent combinations, but because they weren't the 'established' combos everyone laughed at me - hence my bitterness at that whole system.).

    It should also be noted that FFXIV version 1.0 originally actually had such a system you're asking for at launch where you literally could equip any ability from any class regardless of what class you currently were (hence why the original 1.0 opening shows a GLA using what appears to be Esuna to heal a MRD's poison, what is now a CNJ-only ability!) - this system was not popular with the community who asked for more narrow roles for classes, hence classes were redesigned and Jobs were added as a kind of 'advancement' in that role towards the end of the original game's life, and the version of classes and Jobs you see in ARR is the final result.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 03-09-2014 at 10:04 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

  3. #13
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    Kaja Vesh
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    WoW didn't perfect PvP.. Most of the strategy in WoW's PvP is just running in circles and jumping amongst a few other things that really rather limit where PvP COULD potentially go. The concept of PvP in an MMO is far, FAAAR from perfected.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss3237 View Post
    Allow outside arena duals. People always want to test there skill and strength.
    O: For real? this game has arena but no duals?! that's....just unbelievable lol

    We all know duels are unbalanced by default ( unless duels between same classes ), but still, its something that should be there for those who want it.
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    Like I said before, this is FINAL FANTASY, not an arena fighter. We're all on the same side here and not on conflicting factions, so being able to beat each other up for the lulz just doesn't fit the lore nor setting. The PvP in ARR is 4x4 or 8x8 team based fighting, and is actually lore based that it's military training for Grand Company members. Having said that, there is the Colosseum in Ul'dah that specifically features npcs duelling, so I guess anything's possible in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

  6. #16
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    Yes, but I'm not saying open world pvp but request duals and pvp that you register for battlegrounds. Open up the classes for more choices and variety. Let players Level their classes how they want.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss3237 View Post
    PVP - this is hard to do, because WoW basically almost perfected PVP,
    LOL perfected it to the point they could never keep it balanced and mlg dropped them. WOW pvp was far from perfecting PVP. Look at GW, LOL, those games define pvp, Wow pvp wished it was ever half as good as those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss3237 View Post
    Controlled Areas - Meaning specific areas can be claimed by companies. Benefits could be vendor armor etc. Without implementing open world PVP I suggest something like wows battleground PVP. For claim on each territory. By have people sign up and then teleport to PVP replica zone and have a 3 way war.
    Something like this wouldn't work to be honest. It would be almost like AION where the companies that focus mainly on PvP will hold all the zones or a specific one forever.
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  9. #19
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    All I am doing is throwing ideas to make PVP more interesting.
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    By all means if you have an idea please post it.
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